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ramoss
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Message 25 of 33 (286048)
02-12-2006 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Chiroptera
02-12-2006 5:30 PM


Re: Correct Catholic View on Salvation and Purgatory
And the concept of "Satan"
We must also not forget that the terms "Savior" and "Salvation' were political statements, because those are the terms that Ceasar Agustus gave himself, being the 'divine son of God', who 'brought salvation to the roman empire'.

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Message 29 of 33 (286245)
02-13-2006 5:16 PM
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02-12-2006 11:29 PM


Re: Correct Catholic View on Salvation and Purgatory
Actually, the terms used in the New testament are directly the latin terms used by Ceasar AUgustus. The hebrew translations into Latin (and then english) was sort of retrofitted.. and whne there were multiple words to use with similar meanings, 'salvation' and 'savior' were chosen, even if they were not the best fit for the Hebrew.
The Jewish faith got the concept of Satan and dualism from the Persians.
And no, the 'messiah', according to the Jewish texts, was not supposed to be 'god made flesh'. That was a Christian concept that came from the Greek gentil converts. The Jewish expectation for the Messiah was just a man who would kick the foreign invaders out, and become a home grown king over Israel.

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Message 33 of 33 (327714)
06-30-2006 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by inkorrekt
06-29-2006 10:49 PM


Re: Purgatory?
As, a matter of fact, was HELL.
Hell is not a Jewish concept. Purgatory actually is more like the Jewish concept of Ghenna. This 'hell' concept that the Christian faith was a definate add on.

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