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Author Topic:   Intelligent Design or unthinking blasphemy?
xXGEARXx
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Message 110 of 162 (348038)
09-11-2006 4:31 AM


Laymans terms?
I have read some of the posts to this thread. Interesting reading.
Something that I tend to read time and time again goes something like this:
"How can we carbon date man (for example) back to 2 or 3 million years ago when The Bible says God did it in one day?" "The earth was created in 6 days, yet carbon dating speaks a different toon."
Well, has anyone ever thought it might have been a bit mind boggling for the people that lived AT THAT TIME to sit down and go over how the strong and weak nuclear force works? The temperature and pressure of stars? The gasious mixture of the earths atmosphere? Water is 2 parts hydrogen, one part oxygen? Etc., Etc... These are the really easy ones off the top of my head. How could the people during this time understood this? Here is a lame example and not as complicated as the amount of time passed from Biblical writings to todays people--> Two thousand years from now a scientist is explaining to me all the theories of HIS modern time. Even if I am well versed in science, how the heck can I really follow what he is saying? Now, let's say I have next to zero education in sciences?
Couldn't the writings of the time simply have been God's way of being simple? The bulk of the Bible does NOT explain the origins of life. I do not believe this eas intended to be the focus. How large would the book have been if it contained every fragment of creation? How many volumes? Isn't it possible to use laymans terms for the people of the time and really hit on the key points of the Lord? Loving each other, Jesus Christ, your identity in Him, etc?
Now, don't get me wrong, maybe it is EXACTLY the way it is written as it happened. I doubt it based on my above paragraphs. If the people of the time were very versed in sciences, etc. then maybe it would have been written slightly different. Maybe not.
Secondly, why is it so hard believe life is intelligently designed? Everyone here can look at the San Francisco bridge and say "That is something that was designed". We have examples like that all around us. Take out a medical book and read it sometime about the human body and all the chemical processes it undergoes daily. It is amazing. That isn't designed? It is so hard to grasp for the simple fact we are the only ones to answer to. Think about it. Eveything we discuss stops with mankind. Everything. We are always looking over and down, never up. Nothing above us on this earth. No one of a higher authority to answer to or question. It's not like I can ask an Angel to give me answers to the cosmos. I haven't seen any, have you?
To me, it simply doesn't work that way. I see design in life. I can't prove it in a sense because it will be dismissed as "naturally present, just cause'". Of couse, not everyone shares this view, but it is difficult to argue something that one has not "seen" designed by something. I don't think I am wording this as well as I should, but it is late and I don't have alot of time.... I am typing really fast too.. ha!
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Message 146 of 162 (348280)
09-12-2006 1:04 AM


Crapola Design?
Ok...
What makes human design so crappy? To be alive and able to function isn't gift enough? I mean, what are we supposed to be? Isn't that completely and TOTALLY opinion driven at best?
Aren't there any nice things about our design? If it is not a design than what is life? What do you call it?

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Message 147 of 162 (348283)
09-12-2006 1:16 AM
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09-11-2006 11:18 AM


Re: Laymans terms?
Ring0 writes:
Because the "design" is so poor.
As per the topic, blaming the "design" on God makes Him look like an idiot. Claiming that He created a "perfect" design that somehow made itself imperfect also makes Him look like an incompetent fool.
Why is it poor?
Who said it was perfect? I recall reading genesis and God said something like--it was very good.. I mean, life is very good, right? Or would you rather have been a pile of horse dung?

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