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Author Topic:   Intelligent Design or unthinking blasphemy?
Buzsaw
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Message 79 of 162 (340954)
08-17-2006 10:41 PM


It's A Cliche
This thread is essentially obfuscating a simple cliche commonly used in designating one's ideology. It has the odios odor of opposing the opposite opinion of the author.
The term intelligent design is something like a cliche. It's a way of designating whether one believes an intelligent being effected the design of what is observed as apposed to what is being observed having happened by random mutation and natural selection (RM & NS). That's all. Don't over-rate the term and don't abuse it.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

  
Buzsaw
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Message 98 of 162 (341210)
08-18-2006 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by crashfrog
08-18-2006 9:41 PM


Re: Miracle and Magic
Magic = magic (art), sorcery, of the Maji.
1. the pretended art of producing effects or controlling events by charms, spells and rituals supposed to govern certain natural or supernatural forces; sorcery; witchcraft.
2. any mysterious, seemingly inexplicable, or extraordinary power or influence; as the magic of love.
3. the art of producing baffling effects or illusions by sleight of hand, concealed appratus, etc.
Miracle = 1. an event or action that apparently contradicts known scientific laws and is hence thought to be due to suupernatural causes, especially to an act of God.
2. a remarkable event or thing; marvel.
3. a wonderful example; as he is a miracle of fortitude.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 102 of 162 (341444)
08-19-2006 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by crashfrog
08-18-2006 11:29 PM


Re: Miracle and Magic
crashfrog writes:
is the same as:
Look, the Player's Handbook is the definitive source for such things. I mean at least it sets up definitions for its terms, and explains what "supernatural" can actually be taken to mean. (Actually that's in the Monster Manual, but those are both considered part of the Core System.)
And look, Crashy, the Player's Handbook is not the dictionary of the English language to most folks. You and I and the rest know there's primary and secondary dictionary meanings to many words. If you take the #1 primary meaning of these words, they have different meanings and connotations in their primary usage. Magic is seldom used in common everyday speach in reference to the supernatural aspects of God. The universal primary word for that is miracle.
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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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