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Author Topic:   What is Supernatural?
Buzsaw
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Message 62 of 230 (544956)
01-29-2010 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by AustinG
01-28-2010 9:52 AM


Re: The Supernatural
AustinG writes:
The supernatural by definition is the unknowable and therefor can not be scientifically studied. Furthermore, I argue that the supernatural is simpally a "filing cabnet" for phenomena until they can be tested, repeated, and described scientifically. At which point, the phenomena is then moved to the "natural" filing cabnet.
Hi Austin. Some aspects of the supernatural relative to ID interpretations of archeological, physiological and historical observable data are actually more able to be scientifically studied than some aspects of conventional science. For example, problems for accomodating BB theory have led to the widely accepted hypothesis of multiverses which perhaps compound rather than aleviate the problems relative to BB theory.
Buzsaw writes:
Sasuki writes:
It's my understanding that the old idea of a "universe" is obsolete. The current idea is that there is a "multiverse" and that "universes" spring into existence from a larger space. This larger space is unstable and this is why "universes" are born from it. Another way universes spring into existence is when energy is pact into a infinately dense state which leads to a expansion. This energy that is packed into a infinately dense state is done via blackholes that exist in a universe and are born from the death of quasars in that universe. When blackholes have fed enough energy into this stored chamber(infinately dense state) the energy has no option but to expand the space it's stored in and when this happens whiteholes are born. Eventually this process leads to an evitable universe like ours born from another universe.
Thanks
Sasuke
P.S. Nothing wrong with saying before the BB with this multiverse model.
Hi Sasuki. If that be the case it would seem that conventional science must revise the whole concept of space and BB expansion as it stands. The Buzsaw model of space is that it is static unbounded area in which all forces, energy and matter exist.
The multiverse model implies an outside of our universe and space between our universe and other universes.
As well, there still remains the question of the origin of the multiverse, it's before and outside of. It appears that all this does is raise additional questions relative to origins.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 65 of 230 (545006)
01-30-2010 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by cavediver
01-29-2010 3:17 PM


Re: Static 4D Universe
Cavediver writes:
.........we live in a static 4d Universe, ..........
Hi CD. Are you saying that we do not live within the three geometric dimensional universe, time being non-geometric? How is it that an expanding universe is static? Does that mean that the universe is not moving? If so, do you buy the multiverse hypothesis? If you do could we know whether our universe is static within a multiverse?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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