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Author Topic:   Vestigial Organs?
PaulK
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Message 87 of 109 (559534)
05-10-2010 5:42 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Peg
05-10-2010 5:27 AM


Re: correct link
On which page does he say that tonsils are vestigial? They aren't mentioned in the index (which rather suggests that he DOESN'T say it).
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Its the tonsils. His claim is that it becomes a vestigial which is probably why doctors in the past have routinely removed them.
Please show me if i'm wrong, but this is how i'm reading it.
So you think that doctors routinely removed tonsils because of a claim that you think that Wiedershiem made, despite the fact that you haven't quoted him making such a claim or even provided significant evidence that he did make that claim - and despite knowing nothing of the history of tonsillectomy ? (A procedure that has been around, for a long, long time before Wiedersheim, Wikipedia claiming 2,000 years and even citing evidence for tonsillectomies 1,000 years earlier than that).

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PaulK
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Message 89 of 109 (559542)
05-10-2010 6:46 AM
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05-10-2010 6:19 AM


Re: correct link
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he seems to be using terminology that we dont routinely use, he calls it the bursa pharyngea...i think its old terminology. I provided the medical definition which said:
a cystic notochordal remnant found inconstantly in the posterior wall of the nasopharynx at the lower end of the pharyngeal tonsil.
And a little investigation tells me that it is not the tonsils since it is in the wrong place (nasopharynx instead of oropharynx) and has the wrong description. Perhaps you should learn to check your facts rather than jumping to conclusions ?
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im aware that its been done for a long time but that is not what is being discussed.... we are talking about the 'idea' of vestigial organs which has nothing to when tonisils first started being removed.
WHEN tonsils started being removed has rather a lot to do with WHY they were removed. Isn't it more likely given this history that it was the long experience of removing tonsils without any sign of serious ill effects that drove both the interpretation of the tonsils as vestigial and the continued removal of the tonsils ?

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