ID taken to the end

It is more likely that thermodynamics says nothing whatsoever about information. Thermodynamics and information theory both use the term "entropy", and the equations satisfied by entropy are formally the same in both cases. Apart from that, there is probably no relation.Of course this all depends on what is meant by the term "information". There is Shannon information (from Shannon's theory of communication), and Chaitan/Kolmogorov information which is not quite the same thing. As far as I know, Dembski uses Dretske's version of information (from Dretske's 1981 book "Knowledge and the Flow of Information").Shannon information is not conserved. It is created by the transmitter of a message, and disappears when the message signal dies out. I'm not sure about Chaitin information. I suppose it could be said to exist in the platonic world of mathematical forms, and presumably is conserved there. I doubt that it is conserved in the real world.Maybe Dretske information is conserved, or maybe not. I'm not convinced the concept is even workable as defined by Dretske.

I'm puzzled as to which evolutionist who posted in this thread is to be considered "a really good ID counterpart ". Was that a reference to coffee_addict?

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Lam was only pretending to be an IDist.(abe) If I recall correctly, Lam was a physics student.This goes to show that evolutionists who fake being IDists come across as making a better case for ID than the IDists do. That's probably because they at least understand something about science.Edited by nwr, : add comment

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Jesus was a liberal hippie