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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A human can decide whether or not to attach to another person, a hydrogen atom does not get to decide whether to attach to an oxygen atom.
Edited by jar, : rally appalin spallinAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I think what he is trying to say is that a cell, although it doesn’t have intelligence of its own, (although I don’t know why he started talking about a cell seeing), does have intelligence built into its function. What intelligence is built into the function of a cell?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Too funny.
Sorry but none of that involves intelligence, it is just simple mechanics.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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For example a leaf turning to the sun. It seems to me that stored intelligence such as that would be considered innate intelligence. What stored intelligence? The plant turns towards the sun because of mechanics, no intelligence involved. It is no different than an ice cube melting in the sun.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Utter crap.
No it does not take information/memory/intelligence to initiate it. And your example of pulling a hand away from hot surface is NOT similar. The plant cannot decide to turn away from the sun. There is no "learned response". There is no "memory" involved. There is no "information" in any sense that might be even vaguely related to intelligence. The plant turning to face the sun is simple mechanics with NO decisions involved.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Fortunately a human brain is not just one cell, but rather a fairly complex network of cells. While no individual cell can be said to be capable of either though or intelligence the rather complex machine called a brain can.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Because it is capable of NOT turning to face the sun.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
GDR writes: Where is that intelligence if it isn't in our cells? There is no intelligence involved in your example that can "be" anywhere. They are learned responses but they are not innate to a cell anymore than whether a one or zero is stored in a particular bit.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm sorry but I don't see any point or relevancy in that post.
Intelligence is increased complexity and the ability to make irrational, illogical and unreasonable decisions.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Since that has already been answered several times, I still am at a loss about what you are asking.
The blurring is when the critter can decide NOT to respond and the ability to make irrational, illogical and unreasonable decisions. You even quoted that.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Asked and answered.
Yes. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry, no dualism required.
Once again, asked and answered. It is simply a matter of complexity and the capability to act in an unreasonable, irrational and illogical manner. It is simply the ability to NOT turn to face the sun. It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, it is a matter of complexity which is lacking in a cell.
It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry but I simply do not believe you.
Of course it involves more than just the laws of chemistry and physics. Once again, asked and answered. It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So we are in a forum dedicated to the question "Is it Science".
So the next step I would think would be for zi ko to present the experiment that could be used to test his so called theory.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped! |
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