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Author Topic:   Nature's innate intelligence. Does it exist?
Meddle
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Message 185 of 303 (638576)
10-23-2011 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by zi ko
10-23-2011 2:39 PM


Is it strange to you that i have no evidence in relation to this hypothesis? Otherwise it wouldn't be just a hypothesis, but a theory. In any case i have stated from the beggining that i had not evidences.
Even a hypothesis has evidence, since a hypothesis is basically an explanation of a specific observation or fact. Such observations or facts are examples of evidence. An hypothesis progresses to being a theory if it is confronted by new facts and observations and the explanation still holds true.
For example, Darwin did not conjure up the theory of evolution by natural selection and then went looking for the evidence on the Galapagos. He went there, noted the diversity in Tortoise shells and differences in Galapagos and mainland mockingbirds, then he proceeded to develop a hypothesis to explain these facts.
So what specific examples do you have and how does your 'hypothesis' explain them?
Edited by Malcolm, : No reason given.

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Meddle
Member (Idle past 1301 days)
Posts: 179
From: Scotland
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Message 204 of 303 (638912)
10-26-2011 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by shadow71
10-26-2011 7:05 PM


Re: Wow!!
Read the web SITE and then read his papers CITED on the website.
Have you read any of the published articles on Peter Swains site? Maybe you can identify particular articles so we know where best to start to understand your position. This would be more helpful than simply quoting the opening blurb on his home page, which comes across like you really haven't read any of the articles.
For example, we can look at the article titled The scaffold protein Ste5 directly controls a switch-like mating decision in yeast which describes the decision making process of yeast in choosing a mating strategy. The scaffold protein Ste5 mentioned in the title is a key part of the signalling pathway which determines which sexual form the yeast takes. This protein is influenced by two other proteins which compete with each other for binding to Ste5, and which are in turn influenced by pheromones in the environment produced by neighbouring yeast cells.
That probably doesn't make it much clearer, but what it's basically explaining is that this 'decision-making' process is nothing more than a series of protein-protein or protein-gene interactions governed by biochemical properties, intelligence not included. This also gives us insight into what he refers to on the homepage when he talks about how cells 'decide an appropriate cellular response'.

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