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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Irregardless means the same as regardless just as flammable and inflammable are synonyms.
Edited by jar, : fix sub-titleAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: If somebody is going around faking this stuff that's pretty depressing. But people do that all the time Faith. There are people that create documents that say the Bible is without error and documents that say evolution is not fact and documents that say the earth is young and documents that say Trump won the majority votes and documents that say the Russians didn't hack the servers to help Trump and documents that same Obama is a Muslim and documents that say Roman Catholics are not Christians and documents that say global warming is not a fact. Sure it's depressing but many people, particularly Americans, still seem to believe such nonsense.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That is the same thing you keep saying yet so far no one has ever actually produced any evidence to support any of those things. All that ever gets produced are documents asserting those things just as with Obama being a Muslim or not a Natural Born Citizen.
Americans seem to love falsehoods that agree with what they wished was reality.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What's more they are not then allowed to practice or suggest others convert to Islam. It really shows Islam is a religion of peace and not set on world domination.
What it says is that God is far more concerned with how people behave than what label of club they belong to. But on topic. Obama's mother was a citizen and so Obama, regardless of where he was born is a citizen. NOTHING in the US Constitution prohibits a Muslim or Buddhist or Atheist or Roman Catholic from being US President. Once again, facts and reality show the "Birthers" are simply wrong.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
NN writes: Despite your wishes, the constitution would not prevent a Muslim from becoming president anyway. In fact the US Constitution goes even further and makes it clear that someones religious beliefs cannot be used to prevent them from holding ANY Federal position or Job.
Article VI writes: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. This says that even the States cannot discriminate against someone who is a Muslim for any position of public Trust including as a Governor or Sheriff or likely even Chaplin of the Legislature. Note this was included even before the Bill of Rights section to assure that the US would never become a Christian Nation. So the issue of where Obama was born is irrelevant and even if he were a Muslim it is irrelevant. Reality must be a bitch for the Birthers.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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PaulK writes: So where is it sanctioned that one can ignore all the Pillars of Islam for decades to obtain power, and what has Obama actually done with that power that would make it worthwhile ? Actually he has done a lot. If Obama really is a Muslim then we can say for a fact that under a Muslim Presidency in the US the economy improved, unemployment was reduced, health care was expanded, civil liberty increased, religious freedoms expanded, and threats to the nation reduced. Sounds like a pretty good record.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Ah well, delusion reigns on all those points. Trump supporters voted for him because the opposite is the truth. I agree that delusion reigns but reality actually supports all of those positions. The economy is better than it was before Obama, unemployment is down from the levels before Obama, religious freedoms and civil rights have increased under Obama and terrorist threats to the US have also decreased. So to tie it in to the topic, the fact is that where Obama was born is irrelevant just as whether or not he is a Muslim is irrelevant and the reality is that he was born in the US and is not a Muslim just as the economy is better than it was before Obama, unemployment is down from the levels before Obama, religious freedoms and civil rights have increased under Obama, availability of health care expanded under Obama and terrorist threats to the US have also decreased.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: I don't suppose it would occur to you that the economy can be manipulated politically, eh? And that the big banks that are capable of doing this are committed to globalism, which puts them behind Obama? Naa, that wouldn't occur to you. Too funny Faith. Even if that were true it does not alter the facts that the economy is better than it was before Obama, unemployment is down from the levels before Obama, religious freedoms and civil rights have increased under Obama, availability of health care expanded under Obama and terrorist threats to the US have also decreased. The facts are that where Obama was born is irrelevant when it comes to him becoming President just as whether or not he is a Muslim is irrelevant to him becoming a Edited by jar, : stupid fingers; type what I mean not what I type
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Cost is down. And video games are marked "M" for mature instead of "I" for immature. New Speak reigns.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Warner gives FACTS, something you yourself can check out if you would. No, he lies which is easily determined when we do check out reality. Remember Faith, some of us have actually read both the Qur'an and even the Bible.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: ABE: However, let me add something I think was originally said by CS Lewis: what if you believed that witches are people who are directly in contact with demons who can do evil things to people at their command? Would you not want to treat that as a criminal offense? I find it hard to believe CS Lewis could ever say something that stupid or that evil but even if he did say that it would still be both stupid and evil. And, just like the fact that where Obama was born is irrelevant to whether ot not he is eligible to be President, such behavior would be irrelevant to the topic. It would though be valid grounds for impeaching a sitting President; Thank God!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: The Protestants, as I understand it, had court trials, so this wasn't "murder." Roman Catholics also had trials so their execution of Protestants was also not "murder". AbE: But the point is that where Obama was born is totally irrelevant when it comes to whether or not he can become President just as his religious affiliation is totally irrelevant. Thank God in the US a Muslim has as much right to be a President as any Christian. Edited by jar, : see AbE:
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: It has not yet been established that where Obama was born wouldn't affect his eligibility and there are many who say it would. there are many ignorant fools who do say such things however the US Constitution and the decisions of the US Federal courts say that they are simply wrong. Reality really is a bitch.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And where Obama was born is still as irrelevant as it was a year ago, four years ago, eight years ago and will still be irrelevant in the future.
Reality really is a bitch.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: Obama was obviously told by Ayers or others in his Communist circles that they were going to engineer his becoming President. You know, a conspiracy, probably planned out in some detail, and financed by somebody like Soros. Fortunately Faith, even if that were true it would be irrelevant. Thank God in the US, even if Obama was a communist he would still be eligible to be President. So let's add it up: Where Obama was born is irrelevant. Whether or not he is a Muslim is irrelevant. Whether or not he was a communist is irrelevant. Whether or not his run was planned is irrelevant. Whether or not it was funded by Soros is irrelevant. Ain't reality a bitch?
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