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IrishRockhound
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Message 49 of 60 (41459)
05-27-2003 12:35 PM


Hmm.
Syamsu, please stop being insulting.
zephyr has not avoided your arguments, and I do not understand how you think they have been "trying to make this discussion into a meaningless issue of authority." I have read the entire string and I can't see where you're coming from - all I see is someone trying to understand your point of view, and explain theirs in return.
The Selfish Gene appears to be a metaphor using a human concept of morality applied to a particular aspect of genetics, producing a new way of looking at evolution etc. This may be useful and enlightening in some ways - but ultimately I believe it is too open to misunderstanding, and that clouds the issue. Probably inevitable in pop science - use a metaphor to explain something to a layperson, and some will take it the wrong way.
Is it possible that his work was not peer-reviewed because biologists don't need this kind of metaphor?
I don't think he meant for it to seem hateful or anti-religion or whatever - the piece of the preface posted by zephyr shows this.
Bear in mind as well that if you want to support your arguments, paraphrasing just isn't good enough. Only citing your references or quoting directly (like what zephyr has done) will do.
The Rock Hound

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IrishRockhound
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Message 51 of 60 (41702)
05-29-2003 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Syamsu
05-27-2003 2:50 PM


Re: Hmm.
quote:
But before in the tread he did answer a paraphrase from the book of someone. Could that be because the other person was an evolutionist, not very critical of Dawkins?
I don't understand this - what tread? What other person?
quote:
Sure one can remotely conceive that it is not hateful towards religion, to say that we can discard all theories about origin prior to Darwin.
Ah, but therein lies the problem - it is not hateful towards all religions if you say this, just the Christian ones that are obsessed with Bible literalism. I don't find the idea hateful to my religion at all, which suggests that the problem lies in misinterpretation.
Just out of curiosity, where is the book referred to as the most important work in evolutionary biology in the last 30 years?
The Rock Hound

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