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Author Topic:   Evolution: theory for the weak-minded?
no2creation
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Message 12 of 44 (8368)
04-09-2002 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mr BLonDe
04-08-2002 8:10 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr BLonDe:
[b]
B.)...Bacteria reproduce so rapidly that their lifespan is equivalent to hundreds (if not thousands..millions) over relatively short periods of time. Why don't we see dramatic macro changes that benefit the theory of evolution?[/QUOTE]
What would you classify and/or what is your definition of a 'dramatic macro change’? Why would bacterial evolution have to benefit mankind?
Since the introduction of antibiotics, bacteria have undergone many changes. Changes that wouldn't be considered beneficial to humans, but beneficial to the bacterium. At one point many scientists and doctors abroad actually thought that the mass use of antibiotics was eradicating many infectious types of bacteria. Scientists and Doctors now know that the opposite is true.
Not only are these infectious bacteria not dieing off, but they are coming back stronger. Certain bacteria have evolved into forms 'Resistant' to almost all antibiotics currently available.
Here’s a great link on the subject from the Scientific American:
http://www.sciam.com/1998/1198issue/1198nesse.html
How come Creation Science isn't helping with the research on this subject?
added by edit: I use the term 'Creation Science' loosely.
[This message has been edited by no2creation, 04-09-2002]

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no2creation
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Message 17 of 44 (8396)
04-09-2002 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Mr BLonDe
04-09-2002 8:38 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Mr BLonDe:
By degenerating..I guess you could call it evolving for the worse. We aren't getting better, bigger, stronger, etc. as the theory of evolution suggests, we are degenerating. Why? Because of sin of man mentioned numerous times in the bible.

Why do we need to get 'bigger' to show evidence of evolution? We certainly have become smarter, would you not agree? We wouldn't then need to be physically stronger to survive. We have cars now - no need to walk. We have restaurants - no need to hunt for food. We have actually become fairly lazy, but smarter nonetheless.
Also, where can I find evidence of this human degeneration?
Why do you use the bible to support this degeneration? I could then use the book 'Green Eggs and Ham' by Dr. Suess, to demonstrate evolution taking place in our taste buds.

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no2creation
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Message 19 of 44 (8398)
04-10-2002 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Mr BLonDe
04-09-2002 11:46 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Mr BLonDe:
We certainly have become smarter, would you not agree?
No, I actually would not agree. I believe we only appear to be more intellegent by stepping on the soldiers of our predecessors. (IE, from Adam on down, people get less intellegent)
If Adam and Eve were so intelligent why did they eat from the tree of knowledge?
If we were degenerating, how come populations continue to rise?
If people were more intelligent then, why did Noah have to create an Ark with gopher wood? Shouldn't he have been intelligent enough to make it more like an aircraft carrier? Why is there so much suffering in the bible if we were more intelligent then? Slavery? Killing Kids?
What about modern medicine?
How come they didn't have the technology to travel to the moon?
Why did they travel by camels and not cars?
Did they have telephones?
So show me how they were more intelligent again
[QUOTE]Also, where can I find evidence of this human degeneration?
First, show me some evidence of uphill evolution.[/B][/QUOTE]
How would this be possible? You can’t even digest modern science without first making sure it’s ok with your bible. It would be a total waste of my time.

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no2creation
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Message 21 of 44 (8400)
04-10-2002 1:02 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Mr BLonDe
04-10-2002 12:47 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Mr BLonDe:
I don't think you understand what I mean. We are indeed intellegent today, but it is through standing on the shoulders of those before us. For instance, Adam was smart enough to name every animal present in one single day, noah built an ark nearly the size of the titanic (big deal at that age in time) etc.. They didn't have the kind of technology we have today, but that doesn't mean they weren't smarter.

How can you measure the intelligence of a man/woman without first being able to provide evidence of their existance?
How do you know that Adam could name these animals? If Adam and Eve were more intelligent than I, why did they both eat from the Tree of Knowledge if they were instructed NOT to?

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