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Author Topic:   "Creation Science" on astrophysics?
joz
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Message 26 of 76 (9461)
05-10-2002 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by w_fortenberry
05-10-2002 1:14 AM


quote:
Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
Let me begin with just a single, simple question. How do you know that it would take eons for much of the distant starlight to reach us?
http://www.er.doe.gov/feature_articles_2001/June/Decades/44.html
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An unassuming speck of red light assumed gargantuan proportions in 2000, when scientists at the Sloan Digital Sky Survey used detection and computational techniques borrowed from particle physics to find the most distant object ever observed. This quasar had the highest redshift ever seen, corresponding to a distance of 27 billion light years from Earth. Redshift (meaning the light appears shifted to the red end of the spectrum) is used as a measure of the distance of celestial objects. Because the universe is expanding, the quasar was only about 4 billion light years from Earth when the light seen now was emitted-at a time when the universe was very young, less than 1 billion years old.
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joz
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Message 27 of 76 (9462)
05-10-2002 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Philip
05-10-2002 3:32 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Philip:
Honk, Honk!
Simple relativistic physics must be shouted:
'EONS' OF 'LIGHT YEARS/ATOMIC TIME' = 'SECONDS' OF 'SOLAR' TIME
(i.e., 1-4 creation days maximum for all the stars to appear -- you do the math.

I can only assume you are honking because you are a clown....
Even simpler physics must be shouted in big letters:
If you divide a distance by a time you get a velocity not a time....
If you divide a time by a time you do not get a time you get a dimensionless number....
Light years are the distance something moving at c covers in one year...
Thus your seconds of solar time is a velocity....
Here endeth the lesson...

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joz
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Message 29 of 76 (9545)
05-12-2002 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Philip
05-11-2002 9:22 PM


E = m.c2 Is only applicable to a body at rest...
It is the special case of E2 = m2.c4 + p2.c2....
The equation you want is t = gamma.t` where gamma = 1/root(1 - v2/c2)....
Anisotropy of CBR shows that we are moving at 370 Km.s-1 relative to the universe...
Without numbers all your equation means is that time = time....
Plugging v = 370,000 m.s-1 in gives a gamma of 1.006224301 (not very big)....
(Of course thats just the Gamma for something at rest relative to the universe gamma for actual objects depends on their speed relative to us)....
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