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Eta_Carinae
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Message 39 of 79 (99420)
04-12-2004 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by rineholdr
04-12-2004 12:15 PM


Will you please show me the rewrites you are talking about.
Please show me the 'gravitating mass break up' you refer to.
Humphrey's cosmology does not predict any such things. In fact it is wrong from the get go.
Burbidge, whom I know personally, has become entrenched in his own little world. He is reduced to grasping at straws. What were once valid criticisms have become desperate rants. Sad really.

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 41 of 79 (99426)
04-12-2004 1:16 PM
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04-12-2004 1:11 PM


The Allen reference is almost 30 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!
My God, no wonder you think there are fundamental problems. I was starting high school then. I think the highest known redshift was about 1.7.
Is that the best you have got?

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 50 of 79 (99687)
04-13-2004 1:20 PM
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04-13-2004 1:08 PM


You (and it seems Asimov) are misunderstanding Thermodynamics
Entropy is NOT a measure of macroscopic order/disorder. It never has been and never will be.
Please repeat the above sentence until you remember it.
The order/disorder analogy is just that - an analogy.

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 54 of 79 (99729)
04-13-2004 4:19 PM
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04-13-2004 3:16 PM


Take a step back.
Before getting in a tizzy about (silly?) probability questions please first understand thermodynamics.
Can you (in a few sentences not a dense 10 paragraphs) tell me your problems with thermodynamics and why you feel the order/disorder viewpoint has merit.
I think you are under many misconceptions that will not get addressed in 40 line posts that somewhat change the subject.
By the way, the probability arguments posited by Creationists are usually infantile in thought and are strawmen in the extreme. After clearing up the thermodynamics I'll go on to explain why they are terrible arguments.
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