if other Life is Discovered wouldn't this Pose a problem?

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I dont think he did do a poor job, personally I think the even lets say, the human brain, is amazing. Thats one good thing. Now think of other good things. (you seem to prefer complaints)

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So you think our brain is amazing, but you have no answer to the statement that our skull design constantly endangers it?

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'Yep, I love those photos from space too. What does that have to do with the above?'
'I think they are wonderfully brilliant, too.'

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You agree these things are brilliant but give no pointer towards God, yet you mention the bad things and point to God. No offense, but I think I can see where the problem lies.

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Watch the ad hominem there, buddy.Personal attacks aside, you're oversimplifying to a painful degree. Here are the two arguments you're comparing:1. The beautiful things we can see in the world do not necessarily imply the existence of a particular divine creator.
2. The sub-optimal designs in the world give us reason to doubt the existence of a perfect creator.These statements are completely consistent with one another. Rewriting both of them and managing to squeeze in the phrases "pointer to" and "point to" doesn't make their substance different. It only produces a semantic similarity that allows you to claim there is a conflict in reasoning - while it is, in fact, your sentence structure that is in conflict.Enjoy the false dichotomy while it lasts [This message has been edited by zephyr, 09-06-2003]

As I said, you're oversimplifying. If you want to claim that it's simple, you might address specific points I made and explain why they're wrong. Otherwise, I'm not even convinced you understand my argument.

A better design? Yeah, one without the sharp ridge of bone inside the skull that can cause debilitating brain damage. Seems rather obvious.

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Is that all ya' got? hehehe...

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This same question could be asked of Darwinian evolutionists. Why would naturalism continue in its path to keep a single airway, and not choose multiple paths (Using your logic)? I would suspect that if this were a design flaw, a far superior mechanism would have evolved over the millions of years that were transversed by evolution from reptiles to mammals, for example.

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You suspect? That hardly makes it a central prediction of evolutionary theory. The fact is that sub-optimal body plans make far more sense if one accepts their evolutionary origin. Why? Because natural selection favors the best function available, not the best one possible. The ideal solution does not have to randomly occur. If the prevailing trait scores a D+, a C- will happily take its place. The fact that many of our systems and organs work just well enough argues against a perfect designer and leads one quite readily to the combination of mutation and selection.

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I think "things" have gone quite well ( I'm being facetious of course). As for the weak knees and lower back argument, I'll politely disagree. I am a powerlifter; I've seen those same "weak" knees and backs hoist over 1000 lbs.

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So your anecdotal evidence supersedes the stories of countless people who experience lower back pain simply due to living a normal life? All the people with daily knee pain from just doing what we normally do - walking and running? Perspective, my friend, will take you outside your own experience and into the larger realm of human life.

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Thanks again, for your reply, Zephyr. My intention is not to sound arrogantly or ignorantly dogmatic.

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You haven't yet - much appreciated.

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I have much to learn from evolutionists and creationists alike. BTW, I happen to be of the latter ilk. I'm certainly no expert in any field of study, and only wish to engage in dialogue from time to time.

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Hey. Welcome to the forum, by the way. My apologies for jumping on you like I did, and for being gone since Thursday. I had a three-day weekend and old friends visiting.Anyway... enjoy the discussion. In case you hadn't noticed, it can get rather heated If I have enough time, I'll get back into this thread, but I have a project at a critical phase and will be visiting the site all next week. Have fun!