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Quetzal
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Message 11 of 40 (37524)
04-22-2003 3:38 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by booboocruise
04-22-2003 1:42 AM


Re: Legitimate creation arguments...
Welcome back. I'm glad you decided to post again. Please address the counterevidence in your previous threads.
booboo writes:
You see, the Smithsonian is responsible for hiding a lot of evidence that goes against evolution, so I've heard.
Although I'd be willing to bet on what you're referring to here, in the interests of discussion, please cite a specific example where the Smithsonian has hidden evidence against evolution.
Also, National Geographic refuses to publish any legitimate pro-creation articles, and the even refuse to apologise when some of their "science" is revealed as fraudulant.
In spite of the fact that Nat Geo isn't a "peer reviewed" journal, they have a pretty good reputation most times. Again, I'd be willing to bet I know what you're referring to, but I would appreciate it if you could cite a specific example for discussion.
So, if Webster describes science as "knowledge through observation and experimentation" then why do they claim evolution is 'science' when they are hiding evidence against it. To me, illegitimate anti-creationist articles GO AGAINST the true concept of science.
Please provide a specific case of an "illegitimate" anti-creationist article so we can discuss it.

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Quetzal
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Message 22 of 40 (37792)
04-24-2003 4:44 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by booboocruise
04-23-2003 3:27 PM


Re: national geographic
Well, booboo, before working yourself into a lather, you might want to recheck how your questions are phrased.
I asked "which evolved first, male or femal," and you didnt cite your source when you said, "they evolved together".
In this case, a flippant question got an accurate, albeit short, flippant answer. Male and female are not distinct species, ergo, they evolved together. That's all the answer that your poorly phrased question deserved. Now, if you really wanted a scientific answer to how sexual reproduction evolved, for instance, then you should have asked that. Starting out multiple threads, ignoring responses, claiming you're being insulted when you start out with one of your very first posts arrogantly claiming "I've never been defeated in an argument with evolutionists", etc, doesn't lend itself to anything more that what you received. "As ye sow so shall ye reap.", right?
Maybe you got off on the wrong foot here. Care to try again?
You made several vague accusations concerning the Smithsonian and National Geographic (among others). No one asked for a reference, however I specifically asked you for further explanation of what you were talking about. In other words, vague accusations are meaningless. Specific statements such as "Nat Geo published erroneous information on XYZ" are checkable - and can be discussed. How about it? Are you going to discuss, or are you just here to rant?

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Quetzal
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Message 24 of 40 (37794)
04-24-2003 4:51 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by booboocruise
04-24-2003 3:48 AM


Re: Legitimate creation arguments...
You always seem to have anti-creationist crap posted on the web, but I've never seen any evolutionists stand up to a publicised book by a true creation scientist--read through those three books, check their sources, AND ONLY THEN tell me that you can stand up to so-called "dumb" creation scientists!!!
I have asked you before, and repeat it now: bring to this board any ONE single, specific argument/research/statement or even quotation for that matter from any creationist you think represents the epitome of creation science and I'll be happy to deconstruct it for you. I HAVE read a number of so-called creation scientists - from Wells to Dembski to Johnson - and am thoroughly unimpressed. You, on the other hand, are thoroughly impressed. Thus, we have a basis for discussion right off the bat.
Tell you what - I'll read Gentry's "Creation's Tiny Mystery" if you read Futuyma's "Evolutionary Biology". Fair deal? Want to make a bet which one contains the better science?

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