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Author Topic:   Conclusion vs Presupposition
Dr Adequate
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Message 23 of 94 (445077)
01-01-2008 3:09 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by imageinvisible
12-31-2007 5:38 PM


Re: Still waiting for someone to show up
Simple. Evolutionism starts with the presupposition, the idea, that everything in the universe can be explained naturaly, and/or has a natural cause. Ergo, this presuposition states that there is or can be no supernatural intervention. From this starting presupposition a postulate concerning the origin of the universe was derived based on that supposition, i.e. the Big Bing, a postulate which requires billions of years to be feasable. from this same supposition a postulate concerning the origin of life was derived, i.e. the postulate of evolution, which reqiures billions of years to be feasable. These two postulates then became the foundation for studying the universe, and any postulate that follows after them must adhere to their conclusion that the universe and everything in it reqiures billions of years, because any other conclusion would negate the starting presupposition.
The founding presupposition of evolutionism asserts that there is no God, without being able to prove that there isn't a God.
Well, that was nonsense from start to finish.
Why don't you go away and learn something about evolution, instead of making stuff up?
Creationism starts with the presupposition that the universe had to be created suppernaturaly, by God.
Are you speaking for all creationists here? By what mandate?
How we view the big picture determines which answer we chose. We then chose one of these starting points (a or b) and then test the evidence to try and prove that starting point. We then use the observations from those tests to further support our belief in the starting point.
Speak for yourself.
I use the hypothetico-deductive method, which kinda explains why I'm right and you're wrong.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 41 of 94 (445448)
01-02-2008 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Beretta
01-02-2008 6:54 AM


Re: Beginning presuppostions
Evolution starting point:
"In the beginning were the particles and the impersonal laws of physics.
And the particles somehow became living stuff;
And the stuff imagined God;
But then discovered evolution."
Wrong.
Could I suggest once again that you READ A FRICKIN' BIOLOGY TEXBOOK.
Thank you.

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