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Author Topic:   Ancient texts in discussions of science?
PaulK
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Message 46 of 64 (356978)
10-17-2006 2:27 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Buzsaw
10-16-2006 7:13 PM


Re: It Depends.
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Regarding the flood, most cultures have some version of a flood in their legends, et al. This is likely what the ancient Egyptian Tempest Stele, for example was aluding to in some of it's statements which to many of us lend corroboration to the ancient Biblical account. See my Exodus debate with Brian for link to the T. Stele. If there was a flood the ancients were not too far removed from the event time wise.
The Tempest Stele is talking about a exceptionally bad storm and some serious flooding in the reign of Ahmose. It has nothing to do with the Noah's Flood story. It doesn't have anythign to do with the Exodus, either.

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Message 53 of 64 (357026)
10-17-2006 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by arachnophilia
10-17-2006 9:26 AM


Re: It Depends.
Unfortunately the reality is even sillier.
Buz's source claims that some of the Stele text is "identical" to parts of the Bible. It isn't true but Buz can't admit that his source is saying something that isn't true. So even though the guy is trying to claim that the Stele contains parts of the Exodus story, Buz goes looking elsewhere and picks on the Flood myth because it looks more like the storm than the supposedly "identical" Exodus.
What makes it even funnier is that Buz is trying to defend a source that argues that Exodus is a distorted version of the real events.
And funnier still is the fact that elsewhere the guy one-ups the Da Vinci code nonsense by not only claiming that Jesus married Mary Magdalene, but that they were brother and sister too !

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Message 56 of 64 (357127)
10-17-2006 6:38 PM
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10-17-2006 6:22 PM


Re: It Depends.
The problem with saying that the Exodus is based on the Hyksos expulsion is that so much of it disagrees wth that. I can imagine it being one of the stories that contributed to Exodus but there has to be more to it than that. Literalists like Buz ought to reject the idea wholesale, yet Buz clings to it. Indeed he is attempting to use it to support Ron Wyatt's ideas which is daft because Wyatt insists that Moses is Tuthmoses II (who was supposedly forced into exile and returned).
This version doesn't come from Jacobovici but from a guy called Ralph Ellis (who may well be the original source). This webste is devoted. Click on the "Books" link to see the sorts of claims he makes.

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