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berberry
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Message 106 of 179 (115291)
06-15-2004 5:38 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by Rrhain
06-15-2004 4:42 AM


Re: Rrhain's quotes
Rrhain writes:
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It is the tradition of this great country to keep religion out of government.
Is it really? I would agree with you that it is the law of this great country to keep religion out of government, but there is plenty of tradition behind mixing the two. School prayer, to name just one example, was quite traditional. Once the practice of school prayer was tested in the courts, it was found to be unconstitutional notwithstanding the tradition.

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berberry
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Message 108 of 179 (115408)
06-15-2004 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by DarkStar
06-15-2004 2:45 PM


Re: Traditions
You're missing an important point, DarkStar. The Declaration of Independence was our statement to King George that we were no longer subject to him, that we no longer regarded him as our sovereign. The Declaration was intended only to establish the rationale for declaring our independence from Britian, it was not intended to lay down the law of the land in the way that the Constitution did. As you say, there is ample reference to God, or the Creator, but there is nothing to suggest that the founding fathers intended to establish a theocracy. There is nothing to establish a binding link between God and government.

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berberry
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Message 110 of 179 (115412)
06-15-2004 3:14 PM
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06-15-2004 3:07 PM


Re: Traditions
Yes, and I think it's also notable that the idea that nature's God endowed us with all of these rights does not seem to have come from the bible.

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