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Author Topic:   Paging johnfolton. Bring your evidence for a young earth.
Huntard
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Message 32 of 62 (483543)
09-23-2008 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by johnfolton
09-23-2008 2:16 AM


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johnfolton writes:
If accelerated decay is caused by the photon with the genesis canopy crashing down on the earth would of had thousands of years of photon absorbtion. right? However water absorbs heat and creates water vapor which rises and returns as rain. Ice vaporizes in the vacuum of space above the atmosphere and water and steam too vaporizes in a vaccum so heat escapes to space. The heat problem solved. right?
First of all, could you point to where it says in the bible that the earth had a water canopy?
Second, how did it remain up there?
Third, this would not block photons.
Fourth, this does NOT solve your heating problem.

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Huntard
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Message 39 of 62 (483663)
09-23-2008 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by johnfolton
09-23-2008 2:06 PM


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johnfolton writes:
akjv genesis 1:7 The open firmament is the area just below the water above and above the waters below. akjv 1:20 the open firmament is the area the fowl flew.
Well. let's have a look shall we:
Genesis 1:7
quote:
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Mentions no canopy, it mentions waters above the firmament. This could easily mean Pluto, or Europa (Jupiter's moon) or comets, they're made up out of mostly ice, which is water. So, no canopy of water there. Try again.
Likely water ionizes and due the magnetic field as well in space there is a vacuum and even ice vaporizes not just water in a vacuum such as exists above the atmosphere.
I don't know what exactly you're on about here, but let me tell you that there is no way known to science to suspend water over the planet, so unless you want to win the nobel prize and come up with that way, I think you shouldn't mention it anymore.
It would not block photons but absorb photons. Presently the atmosphere today shields us from gamma radiations photons. right?
Even if you would be able to absorb enough photons in the water, they would still not explain the rapid decay rate, as, as said before by RAZD, photons don NOT change the RATE of decay.
Why not? heat rises but agree this water canopy before it came crashing down would of tended to trap heat much like a greenhouse slowing the escape of heat to space. Which is why you have tropical plant fossils showing they thrived under the north pole thousands not millions of years ago.
Why not? WHY NOT? because the water would've been cooked instantly, and evaporated, and it would still leave enough heat to boil the earth.
As for your "plants on the north pole" bit, there never were ANY plants at the north pole, there's no land there on which they could possibly grow.

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Huntard
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Message 45 of 62 (483808)
09-24-2008 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by johnfolton
09-23-2008 8:46 PM


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johnfolton writes:
Why because the bible says there was once a water canopy?
Alright, here's the quote again:
quote:
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Like I said before nowhere in the bible does it say "and the earth was made with a water canopy" or something to that nature, it talks about waters above the firmament, nowhere is it made clear this can only mean a canopy, like I said, Pluto, Europa and comets are mostly made up out of water. It could be talking about them.
The canopy is part of our worlds first created atmosphere for all I know God might of siphoned the water from the moon by the gravity of the earth(like where did the waters of the moon go).
The Moon NEVER had ANY water. Even if it did, there's no way Earth's gravity would've pulled it off there, nor is there a reason it would then be suspended between the Moon and the Earth if it did.
How do you explain tropical life that once was thriving over the north pole without a water canopy?[...]In today's oceans, certain species of microscopic plants are known to rapidly multiply and create algal blooms. Dickens said that fossils of these plants - known only to originate in the tropics before the PETM - are commonly seen in the ACEX cores.
Well, in the article you linked to it is explained in the very first paragraph, it is due to Greenhouse gasses. Furthermore it talks about this period being 55 million years ago, thanks for refuting your ow point.
The creationists have the answer for where all that water for the flood came from the windows of heaven and the fountains of the deep and that before the flood tropical plants thrived over the north pole, etc...
They're doing a pretty good job on hiding it then.

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