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simple 
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Message 1 of 209 (83188)
02-04-2004 10:30 PM


There are so many things, like scattered undersea volcanoes that the Hydroplate clearly explains much better than the embattled plate tectonic theory! Like "..if a chain of volcanoes means it's plate is drifting, does an isolated volcano mean a plate is not drifting?"

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simple 
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Message 4 of 209 (83197)
02-04-2004 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminAsgara
02-04-2004 10:42 PM


Ok I repied to the 2 links above, tks

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simple 
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Message 5 of 209 (83200)
02-04-2004 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by edge
02-04-2004 11:02 PM


..Good, then please explain them
Well, Mr Brown says that if they were, as claimed by proponents of pt THEORY indicitations that a plate was drifting would it not stand to reason isolated ones would seem to speak to a logical mind of some other possibility?
..I didn't know that plate tectonics was supposed to explain EVERYTHING ..
wow how easy you go on the ropes, no wonder no one will actually debate Walt! Of course pt doesn't explain everything! (It's only, like evolution a THEORY!)

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simple 
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Message 7 of 209 (83214)
02-05-2004 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by AdminAsgara
02-04-2004 11:53 PM


Re: Simple on the Watch List
OK Queenie. Glad you'll be watching closely, you might learn something! Unless you really think you're a queen, and know everything!

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simple 
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Message 9 of 209 (83225)
02-05-2004 12:35 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by AdminAsgara
02-05-2004 12:27 AM


Re: Simple on the Watch List
thanks for your simple suggestions. No thank you to me discussing where I don't want to, which is outside my thread. I don't know what your problem is, what debate on this thread have you attempted to 'moderate'? Did you think not thinking you really were a queen was arrogant?

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simple 
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Message 14 of 209 (83450)
02-05-2004 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Quetzal
02-05-2004 8:14 AM


no offense
If I'm repsponding to the wrong thing, don't be offended. I am thinking your post was a reply to something, I can't see what on this thread though? If the answer or response was for me, maybe you could clear up what it's supposed to relate to? thanks

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simple 
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Message 16 of 209 (83456)
02-05-2004 3:56 PM
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02-05-2004 8:14 AM


whoops
OK sorry, I was thinking of something else, I see what you were replying to, I'll respond in a few moments.

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simple 
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Message 17 of 209 (83457)
02-05-2004 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Admin
02-05-2004 3:55 PM


got it
Ok I think I got it.

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simple 
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Message 18 of 209 (83462)
02-05-2004 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Coragyps
02-05-2004 9:49 AM


plate tectonic theory
OK Thanks for explaining how the pt theory tries to explain that one! I guess you just kinda have to "believe" that amazing stuff!

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simple 
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Message 19 of 209 (83469)
02-05-2004 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by edge
02-05-2004 2:21 PM


in context
..This does not explain the isolated islands..
I think Walt there was trying to show how the volcanoes did not fit in well with the pt theory. In that if a certain thing left 'footprints' why was there no prints at other scenes of the crime, rather than proposing some big explanation of them there. Mr Brown mentions in his book how the sliding continents caused heat, some stored in pockets that later produced volcanoes, and of course some spurting up right away causing a lot of that kind of action as well. Sounds a little like your hot spots.
..we all refer to evolution as a theory. What is your point here?
I suppose my point was to rub it in a little that both these sets of speculations were indee mere theories!

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simple 
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Message 25 of 209 (83506)
02-05-2004 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by NosyNed
02-05-2004 4:20 PM


Re: Hydroplate predictions
Mr Brown's thoughts are "The Hawaiian Islands were considered the best example of this phenomenon.18 Not explained were the large chains of submarine volcanoes scattered over a large area next to the Hawaiian chain, but not in line with it. One adjacent chain of volcanoes is actually perpendicular to the Hawaiian chain. It is now recognized that if hotspots exist, they must move.19 Other volcanic chains, such as the Bermuda Rise, are almost perpendicular to their claimed movement.20 Why is a hotspot fixed if the mantle circulates enough to move a plate? ...Magma outpourings are much better explained by movements, faults, and high-pressure sliding friction inside the earthall caused by the sudden rising of the Atlantic floor. Because faults often intersect the earth’s surface as linear features, we have many linear island chains, but with different orientations. " Well sounds like he thinks that's all good.

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simple 
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Message 27 of 209 (83521)
02-05-2004 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Loudmouth
02-05-2004 5:01 PM


dust bin
This is why Walt's theory is in the dust bin. His only reason for putting forth his theory is to reconcile tectonic movements with the Noachian flood
Any theory that is not anti God will be resigned to a 'dust bin' by evo devotees who now dominate the scene. (Here's an easy equation for you --if God inspires the Bible, and godly science-who inspires evolution?!-that's exactly right!) This will change. Till then, the edu-evo moderators will either try to sideline good thought (like try to put it in the "coffee house" here ha) or silence it. (Goodbye in advance folks). Not because they are true or right, but because, for now, they are not overthrown. They will be, though as sure as the sun rises.

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simple 
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Message 29 of 209 (83523)
02-05-2004 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by NosyNed
02-05-2004 4:36 PM


Re: Theories?
No, actually a theory is some idea which has been subject to rather intensive testing and debate. A speculation is an interesting idea that isn't supported yet. A complete fantasy is something which has been shown to be wrong.
And in the case of evolution--ALL THREE!!

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simple 
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Message 30 of 209 (83530)
02-05-2004 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by JonF
02-05-2004 5:54 PM


do it right
Er ... that's not a prediction. A prediction would be an explanation of how and why the Hawaiian islands came to be as they are, based on his "theory".
My concern here is to see if you have something real why Walt is wrong. I'm happy enough that he finds the old theories flawed. Sorry if he didn't predict enough for you. Like I said, find a 'goliath' to debate him personally, and do it right. If Walt was out in the open publicly presented with someone to do it according to his challenge, I don't think he could refuse, since it was his idea.

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simple 
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Message 33 of 209 (83542)
02-05-2004 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by NosyNed
02-05-2004 5:57 PM


Re: Hydroplate predictions
I don't know! I never looked into that much. Why what's the mysyery?

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