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Originally posted by Peke:
I'm arguing that destiny cannot be because that would mean that humans could only improve to a point. That would be true for most other creatures in a way, but humans are tool-makers. Whatever we cannot improve by ourselves, we'll improve by building something to do it for us.
How so? Humanity could be destined to die tomorrow due to a astroid stricking the earth. Regardless of our technology, if the asteroid was large enought there would be nothing we could do to stop it. On the flips side, why couldn't our destiny be to continually grow and expand? Where is the limit there?
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Originally posted by Peke:
Whatever we cannot improve by ourselves, we'll improve by building something to do it for us. The fact we can keep improving ourselfs excludes destiny, because we would eventually find some scientific laws that would predict what humans would do.
Maybe that is what we are destined to do? Does not exclude destiny.
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Originally posted by Peke:
Destiny would have to keep itself secret, because if the rules were known to us, we would change them.
That is assuming that we could change them.
While I am not sure as to the existance of fate, the whole issue is meaningless unless we know what our fate is and then attempt to avoid it. Here you also run into a problem; if there is no fate, we can not then know what our fate is and therefore can't test if we can avoid it.
You are therefore left to wonder; is there a fate that I have just not discovered yet, or does fate not exists and I am searching in vain?
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