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Message 32 of 81 (453496)
02-02-2008 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by fishboy
02-02-2008 2:38 AM


Re: something else to think about
I picked up on that. Thanks. However, it did give me a place to start. I've been hearing these types for years. Not that I don't value randman's opinion. Remember, I'm looking for a good place to start. I feel like I've already accepted the old earth way of thinking, so no need to go there, but anything else is welcome.
Be advised that PaulK is an Atheist-evolutionist who will always misrepresent anyone that does not agree with his pro-evolution views.
Ray
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : add the word "not" between the words "does" and "agree" - thanks Percy

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Message 33 of 81 (453498)
02-02-2008 1:22 PM
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02-01-2008 6:04 PM


No, my question isn't about the age of the earth. And the textbook info only tells so much. I guess a better way to have stated my question would have been, If you had to convince someone, given that that person was somewhat intelligent, unbiased....SNIP
The first thing you need to realize is that everyone is biased - there are no exceptions. Everyone has an axe to grind. Anyone who denies is lying because it is impossible not to have a bias.
....that evolution was sound theory, where would you start?.
Evolution is not a sound theory. It is Atheist ideology packaged as science. And I suggest that you stick around in this Forum (EvC) and get educated that evolution is false.
Ray Martinez (Creationist-Designist).

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Message 38 of 81 (453511)
02-02-2008 2:52 PM
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02-02-2008 1:58 PM


How is this kind of inflammatory rhetoric (Atheist-evolutionist) helping fishboy in his quest for valid information about evolution, which is the topic of this thread? Does that make you a Radical Creationist Extremist?
You have misunderstood. PaulK initiated the inflammatory rhetoric here: http://EvC Forum: Biology teacher resource help -->EvC Forum: Biology teacher resource help
I was merely pointing out his bias.
Ray

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Message 39 of 81 (453512)
02-02-2008 2:56 PM
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02-02-2008 2:13 PM


Divine revelation and other non-evidentiary forms of knowledge, on the other hand, are poorly suited to such analysis. They rely, instead, on belief, dogma, and the like. Experiment, repeatability and replication are not the norm, nor are research and falsification encouraged.
We already know that Atheists reject Divine revelation, and deny the evidence thereof, what is your point?
Ray

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Message 65 of 81 (453713)
02-03-2008 7:39 PM
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02-03-2008 7:18 PM


Attention: Fishboy
Fish, be advised. John Davison is a class A loony. I don't mean I disagree with his gobbledygook. I mean the man is crazy. Even the creos kicked him off their sties. Google him if you doubt me.
John Davison is Professor of Biology. He opposes evolution based on scientific facts. Of course these objective facts (Professor of Biology/opposes evolution based on evidence) is not seen in the above rant.
When we remember that the person who wrote the blue box comment is an Atheist evolutionist the misrepresentation and omission of facts is instantly explained.
You need to ask yourself, Fishboy: "Why do evolutionists misrepresent those who oppose evolution in the manner seen above?" The only logical answer is anger caused by the inability to refute.
Ray
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : No reason given.

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Message 74 of 81 (453833)
02-04-2008 11:31 AM
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02-03-2008 7:59 PM


Re: John A. Davison is an old Earth evolutionist
My understanding is that JAD fully accepts the mainstream thoughts of the Earth's 4.5 billion year age.
Agreed.
He also accepts that biological evolution has happened in the context of that time frame. But, as I understand it, he thinks that evolutions pathways were pre-programed to end up where we currently are.
Yes, Davison advocates a "perscribed" evolutionary hypothesis, which means a theory totally foreign to Darwinian evolution.
He also thinks that evolution is no longer happening.
Yes. He says all we see today is extinction with no replacements.
Ray

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