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Phat
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Message 50 of 61 (95212)
03-27-2004 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Chiroptera
01-10-2004 3:09 PM


Loaded Trees of Knowledge
Chiroptera writes:
I think Crashfrog may be talking about leaving a loaded Tree of Knowledge in the children's playroom.
If we are going to speculate on the status quo at the time of this event, assuming for the sake of argument that the event was real, we also need to know what type of creatures the pre fall Adam and Eve were. They were certainly more than kids.

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Phat
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Message 56 of 61 (95349)
03-28-2004 10:01 AM
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Mental status of Adam and Eve pre fall
If we are to correctly analyze this story, we must assume that it is true as recorded in the Bible. One thing we cannot do, however, is to speculate on how Adam and Eve felt before the Fall. The reason is because the way that all humans now feel is "post fall". We cannot imagine having no awareness of evil. It is unlike a child or an adult in the present, both of whom innately are aware of the reality of good and evil. Babies,even! They are not always little innocents!
Adam and eve, by contrast, cannot be understood because we do not know what it feels like to have no innate awareness such as they had.
innate \i-nat\ adj 1 : existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth : native 2 : inherent, intrinsic
1instinct \in-stinkt\ n 1 : a natural aptitude 2 : a largely inheritable and unalterable tendency of an organism to make a complex and specific response to environmental stimuli without involving reason; also : behavior originating below the conscious level instinctive \in-stink-tiv\ adj instinctively adv
Note def#2 of instinct. After the Fall, humans would inherit a totally different nature than pre fall humans would have.
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