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Author Topic:   Why was the world created?
New Cat's Eye
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Message 5 of 59 (412647)
07-25-2007 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Open MInd
07-23-2007 12:37 PM


If no why can be thought of than the scientific theories are not complete,
Science doesn't ask why. Scientific theories will be scientifically complete without the answer to why.
and the religions that answer this question will be more credible than science.
Yes, they'll be more credible on the answers to the question of why, but they won't be for the questions of how.
According to religions, why did the supernatural create a world?
Because god willed it. God wants us to exist. Why does god want us to exist? I don't really know.
If we exist simply to worship him then what does that make of god?
If we exist just to enjoy existing, then that's aswefully nice of god and thanks are due.
According to the scientific community, why did the nothing turn into something?
No reason. It was inevitable.
You do know that it doesn't say that nothing turned into something, right?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 24 of 59 (412806)
07-26-2007 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Open MInd
07-26-2007 11:01 AM


Re: Science is very credible.
Why is it impossible for a world not to exist?
Because it is inevitable.
A drop of water in freefall forms a perfect sphere, why?. It can form no other shape due to the laws of physics.
The same goes for our world. Why it must behave that way is because it has to, it can do nothing else.
From a science perspective, why/what would cause absolute nothingness to have to become a world?
Absolute nothingness cannot become anything, but then, science doesn't say the world came from absolute nothingness. So if your question is why did the universe to form as it is now, the answer is that it could have done nothing else. The laws of physics demand that the universe forms.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 54 of 59 (413859)
08-01-2007 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Open MInd
07-27-2007 5:48 PM


Re: Science is very credible.
The laws of physics demand that the universe forms.
Again I ask, who says? Who wrote these laws of physics?
Man wrote the laws of physics after realizing the patterns in phenomena.
Everytime we drop a ball, it falls to the ground and at the same rate. After many trials, we can write a law of physics that says that the ball will fall at rate X. If you then come in and ask, why does the ball fall? My answer would be that it is inevitable, the laws of physics demand that the ball must fall.
That's just the way things must happen and we have described those things as laws.
All this does not preclude god as the source of those patterns, as the writer of the laws. He's just an uneccessisary entity for studying the falling of balls so why even bring him into it, even if he is ultiamtely responsible for causeing them to fall.
science doesn't say the world came from absolute nothingness.
If it did not than what did it come from? Who made that?
Well, who made god if he made it? They're both nonsensical questions, right?
Well, not totally. Have you ever read about branes colliding? Maybe the universe came from that. But then, now you're just going to ask "well, where did the branes come from?" "and where did that come from?" ad nauseum
Claiming Goddidit doesn't really avoid the question...
I don't think your childish curiosity will ever be satisfied without suckling on the magic man in the sky. I preferred to grow up and face the facts (mostly).

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