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IrishRockhound
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Message 3 of 59 (69170)
11-25-2003 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Zealot
11-25-2003 7:43 AM


Um, what did your last sentance mean?
If Rei knows nothing about Christianity, please enlighten them and me, and answer this simple question:
According to the bible, can one enter heaven and be saved if they have faith in Christ alone, regardless of their actions?
The Rock Hound

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IrishRockhound
Member (Idle past 4467 days)
Posts: 569
From: Ireland
Joined: 05-19-2003


Message 23 of 59 (69361)
11-26-2003 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by apostolos
11-25-2003 6:57 PM


Re: Danger! Danger!
quote:
If God is so omnipotent that He can reveal Himself in such an absolute way to people, why is the entire world not Christian? The answer is human choice. Certainly God did not have to give people a choice and could force their behavior, but that would violate God’s righteousness. Instead God allows humanity to make its own decisions on an individual basis. This choice is either to respond to the revelation of God by Himself, or to reject it and Him. So in short, the whole world could be Christian but, largely, it chooses not to be.
Russ, I'm curious; would you say that people all over the world have had revalatory experiences that lead them to conclude the existance of a god or gods, but that by default that god is actually the Christian one? I've been trying to understand your post and that is what it seems to be saying. As for this small quote here that caught my eye... I feel that it is unfair. Those who have never heard of Christianity obviously cannot choose to reject it. Why should they put a Christian slant on their interpretation of god if they do not know they should? In my mind at least the Christian god is not all that special except to his believers. I think that the bible is simply another layer of fluff separating people from the truth.
Or, I could just be talking crap.
The Rock Hound

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