Which then begs the question...just who are you trying to convince?
Me. I am trying to convince anyone I can because I am a gospel preacher.
But I wish I were more so. Still a gospel preacher can be polite and allow the atheist to say that he doesn't want anything to do with the gospel.
Why, I even come here to post because I pray and hope some reading person will say to himself "Maybe, tonight I will read a few chapters in the Bible for myself to see what is there."
I'm overjoyed at that. That is part of my reward. I am very enthusiastic about the Gospel of Jesus. I was not born that way. At one time I was a flaming skeptical opposer of the Bible. I was into Zen Buddhism for awhile.
Sometimes I can hardly believe that I actually believe the gospel. But the indwelling Holy Spirit has something to do with that.
Am I rambling on ?
That's all well and good until you encounter someone who can poke several holes in the "logic" of the wager.
Oh, all those philosophical reasons can usually be found to have a weakness somewhere. Then apologists do the same thing athiests do. They go back and revise a new version of the argument.
Skeptics do the same thing. When weaknesses in their arguments are exposed they go back to the drawing board and improve their position. Over the years you began to see the evolution of these various arguments into different stages.
That's why if you are into philosophhical debate you really have to pause and listen to what the other guy is saying. You may assume that they are using the older argument when they are using the new revized and improved version.
This is true on both sides. For example:
Old Version of of a classic argument:
1.) Everything that exists has a cause
2.) The universe exists
3.) Therefore the universe had a cause
Newer Version
1.) Everything that begins to exist has a cause
2.) The universe began to exist
3.) Therefore the universe had a cause
And of course some one eventually may find some weakness in the latter version. People have been at this debating for a long long time.
The wager is full of fallacies. Only someone unable to recognize the fallacies and agree with you based on fear of the Christian hell will fall for it.
Maybe it is has some fallacies. To every philosophy there is an equally strong and opposite philosophy.
So, again...who are you trying to convince?
I don't expect that any person can be convinced of something against his will.
" A person convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."
It seems like an argument to try to convince oneself of their own rightness without having to think about it too hard. Which, if true, blows your argument of it not being for personal benefit out of the water, no?
I haven't been able to find anything of more precious worth and value than the Person of Jesus Christ.
It took me a long while but eventually I came to the point that what I really needed was not a matter, thing, vibration, system, a philosophy, doctrine or force, but a living Person. And that is what Jesus is today - a living Person.
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