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Author Topic:   A Question of the Heart
Coragyps
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Message 12 of 36 (402680)
05-29-2007 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faithful Servant
05-28-2007 9:34 PM


For all of science's "physical" evidence, they can say absolutely nothing of the one thing that makes us who we are, because it has no "physical" properties to speak of.
Then what do you make of this:
Humans restrain self-interest with moral and social values. They are the only species known to exhibit reciprocal fairness, which implies the punishment of other individuals' unfair behaviors, even if it hurts the punisher's economic self-interest. Reciprocal fairness has been demonstrated in the Ultimatum Game, where players often reject their bargaining partner's unfair offers. Despite progress in recent years, however, little is known about how the human brain limits the impact of selfish motives and implements fair behavior. Here we show that disruption of the right, but not the left, dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (DLPFC) by low-frequency repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation substantially reduces subjects' willingness to reject their partners' intentionally unfair offers, which suggests that subjects are less able to resist the economic temptation to accept these offers. Importantly, however, subjects still judge such offers as very unfair, which indicates that the right DLPFC plays a key role in the implementation of fairness-related behaviors.
Daria Knoch, et al., Science 3 November 2006 314: 829-832
or this:
The psychological and neurobiological processes underlying moral judgement have been the focus of many recent empirical studies. Of central interest is whether emotions play a causal role in moral judgement, and, in parallel, how emotion-related areas of the brain contribute to moral judgement. Here we show that six patients with focal bilateral damage to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (VMPC), a brain region necessary for the normal generation of emotions and, in particular, social emotions, produce an abnormally 'utilitarian' pattern of judgements on moral dilemmas that pit compelling considerations of aggregate welfare against highly emotionally aversive behaviours (for example, having to sacrifice one person's life to save a number of other lives). In contrast, the VMPC patients' judgements were normal in other classes of moral dilemmas. These findings indicate that, for a selective set of moral dilemmas, the VMPC is critical for normal judgements of right and wrong. The findings support a necessary role for emotion in the generation of those judgements.
Koenigs, et al., Nature 446, 908-911 (19 April 2007)
Those sound pretty physical to me.

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Coragyps
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Message 19 of 36 (402770)
05-29-2007 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faithful Servant
05-29-2007 10:07 PM


This is definite, direct, to-the-point information that, even logically, 'sounds' correct, simply because of what you know about yourself.
Beg pardon? Sounds correct to whom? To you, perhaps? It sounds like gibberish to me - and that after about forty years of buying into that "life beyond this one" wishful thinking.
You seem to be rapidly straying from your own thread topic here, and wandering off into some sort of preaching. This is "Faith and Belief," and you can include all of those you want, but please try not to wander too far afield. [/mod hat]

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Coragyps
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Message 34 of 36 (402905)
05-30-2007 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Dr Adequate
05-30-2007 4:07 PM


Re: No Brainer
Europeans thought that the brain was there only to "cool the blood" until the 1600's.
Maybe that's what it did until then, ya think?

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