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Jet
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Message 90 of 108 (9333)
05-07-2002 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by nator
12-26-2001 1:30 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:
"Speaking for myself, an Agnostic (recovering Catholic)..."
***Without attempting to comment further on the entirety of the statements in your post, I think I finally can understand your animosity, (if that is the correct term), towards Christianity and your inevitable switch to a reliance on science rather than God. A thorough study of the history of the Catholic Church, from its' inception and into present day, as well as the teachings they continue to espouse, (not to mention the pedophilic rapists they continue to protect), begs the question......."Why do so many continue to follow Rome?" Had I been raised in the Catholic Church, I might very well be standing at your side, promoting the virtues of science over the vicissitudes of Catholicism in particular, and Christianity in general. In order to stave off unwarranted comments from any Catholics who may become offended, I acknowledge that the Catholic Church is not alone in their bastardization of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.***Jet
Shalom

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Jet
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Message 91 of 108 (9334)
05-07-2002 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by nator
12-26-2001 1:30 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:
"Speaking for myself, an Agnostic (recovering Catholic)..."
***Without attempting to comment further on the entirety of the statements in your post, I think I finally can understand your animosity, (if that is the correct term), towards Christianity and your inevitable switch to a reliance on science rather than God. A thorough study of the history of the Catholic Church, from its' inception and into present day, as well as the teachings they continue to espouse, (not to mention the pedophilic rapists they continue to protect), begs the question......."Why do so many continue to follow Rome?" Had I been raised in the Catholic Church, I might very well be standing at your side, promoting the virtues of science over the vicissitudes of Catholicism in particular, and Christianity in general. In order to stave off unwarranted comments from any Catholics who may become offended, I acknowledge that the Catholic Church is not alone in their bastardization of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.***Jet
Shalom

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Jet
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Message 93 of 108 (11629)
06-15-2002 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by RedVento
05-08-2002 5:43 PM


Originally posted by RedVento:
funny thing is the catholic church DECIDED what was included and what was exluded from the bible.
***Actually, that is not totally correct. While this may hold true for Roman Catholicism and its' offshoots, this is not the case universally. For instance, the Greek Orthodox Bible does not include the book of Revelation, as it was not viewed as being inspired of God. Other Bibles do not include the Apocrypha, as they were not viewed as being inspired of God. So now the question would be, which, or who, should be followed? The Roman? The Greek? The ???????***Jet
RV:
Regardless of Roman Catholic, Orthodox Christian, or Protestant, all the teachings come from the same place, a book put together by the Church.
***Again, not totally correct. Time has changed many things, including the facts concerning the translation and transliteration of Holy Scripture. You should research this a little deeper. What once held true does not necessarily continue to hold true, as a number of groups have publish Bibles according to, and in line with, a better understanding of the ancient texts. And as for the Catholic church, forget it. They do not even follow the teachings in the Bible that they use.***Jet
RV:
The Catholic Church, which ultimatly represents all christians.......
***"SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, AND SCHRAF THE EX-CATHOLIC, BUB! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH NEVER HAS, AND NEVER WILL BE MY REPRESENTATIVE!"***Jet
RV:
.......is a corrupt, lieing, deceitful organization that will do or say whatever it needs to in order to maintain its power.
***You will get no argument from me on that issue.***Jet
RV:
Abstinance was enforced soley for this reason, the christman tree, the very DATE of Christs birth also shows this, so many "catholic" things are extremely non-catholic. In fact the very substance of the catholic religion is based upon an event that very likely never happened, but without it the religion fails(the ressurection). Without the ressurection you do not have catholics, you have jews who followed a lunatic from an extremist jewish cult(Nazerians were an ultra orthodox religious cult).
***Well aside from your statement bordering on blasphemy of God, your comments on the Catholic church and their pagan Babylonian practices is essentially correct.***Jet
RV:
Also we have this.. the meek shall inherit the earth.. I dont remember the added footnote that reads as long as they are practicing catholics who have embrased jesus. That is some *loving* god.. who incedentilly ordered the execution of the Canaanites and the Philistines, endoresed the death of children that were not jewish and all around was not such a peacefull, fun loving god that Jesus claims him to be.
***Now it is statements like this last one that always make me wonder in amasement at the audacity of some people. That any person, especially some pagan evolutionist, feels as though they are qualified to dictate to God, whom they have rejected, and whom they deny even exists. Yet they feel qualified to show God how to be righteous and how to deal with the wickedness of people that continued unchecked for generation after generation. Once again, the clay thinks it is wiser than the Potter. Unbelieveable to the point of being an excercise in ignorance and corruption to the Nth degree.***Jet
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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstei

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Jet
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Message 94 of 108 (11630)
06-15-2002 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ekimklaw
12-24-2001 3:11 AM


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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?
Prof. George Greenstei

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