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Rei
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Message 5 of 91 (54806)
09-10-2003 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Charles Munroe
09-09-2003 2:08 AM


One thing that really bothers me...
... about that parable, is that God told them that if they eat from the tree they'd die. The serpent told them that if they ate from the tree, they wouldn't die, but their eyes would be open, and that they'd know good and evil. They ate from the tree. They didn't die, but their eyes were opened, and they knew good from evil. God, upon hearing this, modified humans so that they would die. But - the snake was right! And God rigged the game afterwards.And when did God tell Eve not to eat from the tree? Off-camera? Of course, I love the anthromorphism in the story. It was God deliberately pretending to be humanlike for some reason, right? "Where are you?", walking around, making noise, not knowing answers, etc? What a skit! Not to mention that his challenge was to someone he created who didn't know good from evil, to know good from evil.... And why on earth were *snakes* being punished? Because Satan took the form of one (as most Christians interperit that parable)? That makes no sense at all.
And let's not get into Gen. 3:16... NIV tries to soften it, but the Hebrew isn't so generous.
This story is troubling on so many levels.
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illuminate me."

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Rei
Member (Idle past 7043 days)
Posts: 1546
From: Iowa City, IA
Joined: 09-03-2003


Message 44 of 91 (67203)
11-17-2003 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Itachi Uchiha
11-17-2003 6:21 PM


Re: WRONG!
quote:
of course, if you dont believe in god youll never see this and thats why youll die living in this boring one dimensional world thinking that if you cant explain it it doesnt exist.
Please pardon me for being like this, but I have this nasty tendancy to believe in things because the evidence supports them, not because I'd like for them to be true.
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Prove to me it can happen. Burn a pice of wood and try doing the reverse. Or leave the ashes and maybe in a million years it will become a butterfly.
Here's a question for you - please humor me on it. How old are you?
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illuminate me."

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Rei
Member (Idle past 7043 days)
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Message 47 of 91 (67207)
11-17-2003 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Itachi Uchiha
11-17-2003 6:32 PM


Re: WRONG!
quote:
quote:
"Here's a question for you - please humor me on it. How old are you?"
not old enough as you granpa but old enough to accept that the world was created by a god who will one day destroy it and judge all of us according to his law.
Could you please put that in a base-10 number?
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quote:
"Please pardon me for being like this, but I have this nasty tendancy to believe in things because the evidence supports them, not because I'd like for them to be true."
thats why i believe in God. my life is proof of it.
Ah. So, what evidence do you think favors the interference of a deity in this world, as opposed to the fundamental, repeatable laws of quantum physics, relativity, etc? Or do you believe in the God of the Gaps (who would currently be hiding in wave functions)? Or do you believe in a personal God, but a sneaky one - one who interferes with reality, but never when there's an experiment going on that would show such interference?
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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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