Why is Evolution at odds with Christianity?

I Belive in a God, used to call my self a christain at one point, but long abandoned that title. I am at best agnostic, I belive there is a devinity in the universe, but I don't profess to understand it's nature.In any case, I have allways found it interesting when confronted by fundamentalists why they feel Evolution is at odds with Christianity. It seems rather silly to base your whole religion on the verasity of easely dispovable myths put forth in a 4000 year old text, especially when the heart of christianity are it's tenats: Love one another, Love your neighbor, etc.Whouldent Jesus rather you follow his teachings about morality than bickering about the errancy or inerrancy of a bunch of old folk tales?Why do Christians concentrate so much on nitpicky subject such as "biblical facts" rather than trying to glean the moral and spiritual truths that the bible certainly has?Why do Christians feel that in order for there to be truth and validity to Christianity, every word in the Bible must be litteral fact when it clearly isnt? Likewise, why do they feel the Bible, like any other text, shouldent be criticaly, or figuratively, aproached?Evolution is a science, a fact, and a theory in the same sense as the Theory of Gravity. the Bible surely contradicts Gravity more than once, yet I see no Christians denying it's exitance.Like the passages were the sun stands still, or when in moves backward.So I ask, why do Christians feel that the bible has to be litteraly true for it's moral teachings to be true? Isn't that building a religion like a house of cards?

Heh... I guess But in the way I look at it, how can anyone profess to know the truth about "why we are here"?I think it has a bit to do with Arogance. Doesn't assuming that you KNOW the bible is true, or that you KNOW that every last word in it fact, automatically mean that you are knowing the unknowable?I mean, doesn't God lambast Job in so many words for attempting to know what only God can know?I think fundamentalists have a weak religion, a weak one in even christian terms. They are not building their house on a rock as it were They are also confused about the questions science is attempting to answer. They belive it is out to answer "why things exist", but fail to realize that it can only answer "how things exist". Because of that, they really put themselves in a bad spot.The "why", what Aristotle called "for the sake of which" can never be conclusively answerd. That answer lies in faith. Perhapse, if the christians want something concreate to hold on to, they can look within themselves to find the "why", and hold on to that.Like the grass in the field, if it were to rigid, it would all break underfoot. Christianity should allow itself a bit more flexibility, throw out the bad, and accept the good.[This message has been edited by Yaro, 07-12-2003]

Yes, but isn't the doctrine of Jesus saving us from sin and the need for him as a PERSONAL Lord and savior, mearly theology put fourth by John and the Epistles?I saw Jesuse's martyrdom to be tragic along the same lines of Socrates, or Gahndi etc. He was a great teacher who died for his belifes. Many Christians seem to interpret the passages of "only thrigh me you get to heaven" to mean you must belive in christ, but the actual greek is very broad, It can basically mean "belive in what I say," or "belive in what I teach." Much of Jesus's words are this ambigus in the coinic manuscripts.Which also makes me wonder why so many fudies like to refere to the origional texts as if they were somehow more authoritative when infact are even more vague.

heh... well, maybe not agnostic then Rather somedays I do somedays I don't. I think there is divinity in the univers, a God for lack of a better word. I just have no clue as to its/his/her nature.The only reason, I think this, is simply because the contemplation of an infinite pointless universe frankly gives me a headache

In my opinion, Christianity has nothing to do with the OT, or the epistles, but rather Jesus's teachings, which for the most part, people will agree weren't all that bad.I think christians forgot that when Jesus came, he came to reform the old Jewish doctrine.

"...a being of incredible intelligence must have created it. If you found a Swiss watch in the middle of the desert and someone asked you how it got there the answer would beSOMEONE MADE IT AND PUT IT THERE."Evolution doesent say life just "was put here", nor does it attempt to do away with God. Evolution, and science for that matter, does not attempt to answer "why we are here" it only answers "how we came to be".
Why is the unknowable, that's were a God comes in.I personaly belive in a creative power in the universe, in a sort of metaphisical spiritual realm that permiates everything and of which life is a major component. Yet I don't see our phisical world as separete, but mearly a manifestation of it.But hey,m thats my idea In any case, Evolution has never said "God dosn't exist".

"This doesnt fit in with evolutions far fetched explanation of life. So if the Bible is true then Evolution is not. Thats how I see it."Ok... lets say evolution is far fetched (which it isn't) but we'll start from there. Let's throw it out all together and say, it dosn't exist! Now, why should I belive your Bible, if it isn't far fetvhed?Hmmmm.... so, the world was flooded, an Noah somehow made it to the amazon to get 2 toed sloths, gather up strange species of insects, captured fresh water dolphins, and came all the way back across the Atlantic to the middle east to put them on his boat. Ok... that dosn't sound far fetched.So God made man from some mud, or dust, and woman from his rib, and there were talking snakes and magic trees. And there is only one God, yet he referes to more than one god "in the beginning". And somehow, two people made all the races in the world when I have never seen a white couple have a black babie, ok. Hmmmm....And the world is only 8-6000 years old, despite chinese history, aztech history, aborigional history. And even after the world was flooded and everyone killd, somehow all the civilizations that existed before the flood survived.And the world was created in six days in a specific order, yet there are two compleatly different acounts of the order. And they are both correct and acurate. That's not silly.Your right! It makes so much sense!!!It sounds to me like the bible is pretty far fetched.