Logical fallicies in the bible

1Godbeliever, Not forgetting cancer, tuberculosis, arthritis, bilharzia, HIV, AIDS, tapeworm, liver fluke, congenital blindness, deafness, ambiguous sex, galloping fanny rot, pneumonia, asthma, cystic fibrosis, muscular dystrophy, multiple sclerosis, psoriasis,.... the list is infinate.Mark------------------
"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."

Thank you for the Bible Quotes. Jesus knew that His arrival (and departure for that matter) would cause a commotion, bring war, enlist endless debate. He knew that Christians would find their place difficult and not without ridicule and war. Luke 12:49 also supposes the Earth is kindled. Ready for his fire. Verse 51 also goes on to say that He is bringing division. He knew what His life was going to mean. He knew that families would be divided because of Him.
He was being kind to offer a warning to the Child Abusers. I find they deserve none of my consideration. But Jesus wanted them to turn from that evil.
Matthew 11 continues with Jesus offering peace and rest for those who wanted it. He was not hesitant to point out the evil of this world. But, through peace and love has been able to change billions of peoples lives.

Mark,Yes, the list is infinite. I could inflict my personal drama, but I will stand down. I don't believe we can REALLY know the power of God without knowing the power of evil.Sherry

Sherry, Perhaps you mean the vanity of God? Placing evil so that he can be compared favourably to it?Mark------------------
"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."

Sherry, Perhaps you mean the vanity of God? Placing evil so that he can be compared favourably to it?Mark------------------
"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."

mark24, this may be the wrong place, but about your quote/signature. that bracketed [also] totally changes the meaning of what he says. with the also he is obviously being hypocritical, however with out the also he is stating that evolution is a religion. he says nothing about the religious status of creationism (regardless of how obvious it may seem to some).so adding that also makes his statement sound foolish (well... even more so than with out the also). just sayin'

'Perhaps you mean the vanity of God? Placing evil so that he can be compared favourably to it?'What getting killed on the cross for our sakes, you think thats evil ?
Healing diseases and injuries, you think that's evil ?
Evil is the exact opposite of God's will, his actions certainly show it.

Mike, Did you bother to read what I replied to? Read the last few posts & who I was talking to for comprehension.Dying on the cross was unecessary. He could have had a 6-pack & a pizza for your sins. If you are saying God demanded Jesus' death for our sins, then yup, that's evil, he's omnipotent, never had to happen that way.Healing diseases of Gods device, you mean?Mark

Theomorphic,I don't see it, but anyway, even if it were true, he's saying evolution is a religion & shouldn't be taught, so is creationism, & it should. Hypocritical.Mark------------------
"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."

'If you are saying God demanded Jesus' death for our sins, then yup, that's evil'Did you miss the part where Jesus says he lays down his life of his own will.'Healing diseases of Gods device, you mean?'No, or God would not heal, if he causes evil, why does he heal people ? that would be an obvious contradiction, and there would be no believers !
Dont be fooled by satan, he is the one who wants you to take the 'God is the badguy' attitude !
Someone who dies on a cross on agony, if he is your enemy who qualifies as your friend ? AND he does it for us.

mike, No, just seems stupid to me, when he could walk the dog for our sins, or throw a really big party, or wear a comedy red nose, for example. Beats me, I thought God was the only one who could create life. I guess all those parasites means there's another creator somewhere, right? Another obvious contradiction, you mean? & no, they would rather ignore it than face it. It's the nature of the faith beast. Like I say, I'm not really sure I should be grateful to someone who inflicted so much pain on himself unnecessarily, I don't want to encourage others. It's a bit sick, if you ask me. It'd be like your wife cutting her head for you to show you she loves you, why not just give you a big ol' sloppy kiss? Or my brother self harming himself for me so I can have a pint, when he could just go to the bar instead.Mark------------------
"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."

'It'd be like your wife cutting her head for you to show you she loves you, why not just give you a big ol' sloppy kiss? Or my brother self harming himself for me so I can have a pint, when he could just go to the bar instead.'Dont forget though, Jesus was paying for sin. Sin has to be payed for, people cannot get away with murder, stealing e.t.c God knew we were so far gone in sin, that he alone would have to sought it out. And think about it, would you enjoy being crucified, I wouldn't. But to be righteoss in God's sight then the only righteouss done it for us, I personally accept Jesus' sacrifice for me.

Mike, That's what I call drawing the short straw! "We're all sinners, & one of us is going to pay!"Let the people who committed the sin pay for it. Why is that such a difficult concept, Mike? But they do. If they remain unconvicted & believe in God, they go to heaven. At the same time, another person who has done only good but isn't a Christian, goes to hell. Hardly justice, mate. I'm getting a little fuzzy as to why being stapled to a tree was a good idea, & why I'm supposed to be grateful for it? Good for you. For my part it was an unecessarily brutal episode that could, should, have had a happy ending, rather than some bloke getting nailed to a plank so you can enter heaven, when he could have just wished it to be so.Back to the original point. Why did God create all those parasites to cure us of? Only God can create life, right?Mark------------------
"I can't prove creationism, but they can't prove evolution. It is [also] a religion, so it should not be taught....Christians took over the school board and voted in creationism. That can be done in any school district anywhere, and it ought to be done." Says Kent "consistent" Hovind in "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 6."[This message has been edited by mark24, 09-01-2003]

'At the same time, another person who has done only good but isn't a Christian, goes to hell.'Your opinion not mine, personally I think good people go to heaven, I could be wrong but then I usually am.lol'Let the people who committed the sin pay for it. Why is that such a difficult concept, Mike? 'It isn't, I am sure though, that if you truly believe in Christ, you will seek to sin no more. All of us sin remember, me too Mark, God made us right with him, my point is that in itself is NOT evil Why dont you get angry at satan, and the bad guys who crucified him.

Umm guys.... does this stuff actually apply to logical faliceis in the Bible?Im sure you can easely make it do so, but so far it's wandering off topic and is mostly just mark and mike sniping at each other . Entertaining I must admit