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Author Topic:   Prophecy Revisited: Israel's Destiny?
PecosGeorge
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Message 1 of 26 (135832)
08-20-2004 10:41 PM


The evil perpetrated on Jews was foretold long before most of it ever happened. Regardless of where they have gone in this world, including this country, the following prophesies have come true.
Here it is, in black and white. What was prophesied about the Jews has come to pass in repetitions too numerous, and too sorrowful.
Psa 44:11
Thou hast given us like sheep [appointed] for meat; and hast scattered us among the heathen
Lev 26:33
And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a
sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your
cities waste.
Deut 4:26
I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it; ye shall not prolong [your] days upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed.
Deut 4:27
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.
Deut 28:37
And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a
byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.
Deut 28:64
And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the
one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, [even] wood and stone.
Deut 28:65
And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall
the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee
there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
Deut 32:26
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the
remembrance of them to cease from among men:
Deut 32:27
Were it not that I feared the wrath of the enemy, lest their
adversaries should behave themselves strangely, [and] lest
they should say, Our hand [is] high, and the LORD hath not
done all this.
Eze 20:23
I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I
would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries;
"May the Sun of Righteousness rise upon......with healing in his wings".

"Let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit!"
2 Cor. 7:1

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PecosGeorge
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Message 5 of 26 (135906)
08-21-2004 8:43 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Buzsaw
08-20-2004 11:10 PM


Re: But They're Back!!
That's well-said, Buz. The restoration prophecies would be nice to see. Please do.
The Jews are scattered throughout the world, as if the wind had picked them up and carried them away. This, according to prophecy. The remnant living in Israel has a tenuous hold on the land, and a just as sorrowful existence.
When the King of Israel returns, it will be for those who are waiting for him. That will certainly not be many Jews.
The Jews had the prophecies of his coming. The Magi knew of it, a few Jews did as well. Most rejected him, most of humanity has and will continue to reject him.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 6 of 26 (135907)
08-21-2004 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
08-20-2004 11:23 PM


No thank you.
You did quite well, but circular discussion is not my thing.
God said I will scatter you, and scattered is what they are. You may not wish to call it prophecy, but that is what it is. You may not wish to acknowledge the results of the prophecies, but history bears them out.
There is a danger in singling out verses without considering the whole chapter, book.
The chapter, book - the entire Bible speaks of nothing other than the disobedience of God's chosen people, and the consequences. It is also filled with heart-wrenching pleas - ignored.
The lesson is for everyone.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 10 of 26 (136021)
08-21-2004 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by jar
08-21-2004 12:36 PM


You did exactly what you were supposed to do.
You used one thought I presented and ran with it, disregarding the outline as a whole.
The prophecies in question have all come to pass, and are still coming to pass.
It doesn't REALLY mean what it says - is the story of the Bible. If God says 'red', he doesn't really mean red, he means blue. If God, for instance, says the soul that sins it shall die, he doesn't really mean that, what he really means is that the soul is immortal. Even tho the scriptures say that God only has immortality, it doesn't really mean that he is the only one who has immortality, it means the soul has it too, whatever it means that if the soul sins it shall die, it doesn't mean dead as in dead, it means immortal. Are you following me? So, even tho it says God will scatter Israel, it doesn't really mean scatter, it means something else, for even tho they are scattered, they are not really scattered, even tho they are all over this planet, it means something entirely different. You just can't say what it means, even tho the evidence clearly says they are scattered.
Yeah, by George, I think I've got it.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 12 of 26 (136079)
08-22-2004 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by jar
08-21-2004 10:06 PM


Yup, I think I've got it.
Glad you think you do, too.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 22 of 26 (136757)
08-25-2004 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Andya Primanda
08-25-2004 4:11 AM


Re: But They're Back!!
Jesus says in the Bible
John 14:4-6
"And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
This is how you will get to the heaven of Jehovah God.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 24 of 26 (136772)
08-25-2004 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by ramoss
08-25-2004 11:12 AM


Re: But They're Back!!
Of course they could.
Spiritual Israel will live for eternity. Physical Israel fares the same as any other nation on this planet. Their calling to take the True God to all the world, as missionaries of sorts, is terminated.

"Let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit!"
2 Cor. 7:1

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