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MentalSword
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Message 107 of 111 (499706)
02-19-2009 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Reality Man
02-11-2008 3:59 PM


Hi Reality Man,
I think that the question you are asking is actually "can you hold an argument with only the words of the Bible to back you up?"
I would say the answer is 'no'. But this is true for any debate. If you only have a single source of information to base your ideas upon, then you are severely limited in the scope of what those ideas can be. So if the question was "can you hold an argument with only the words of School Press Physical Science 2nd Edt?", then the answer would also be 'no'.
So if you're trying to debate an issue of creation and your opponent can only back their statement with "the Bible says so", while you have a stack of verifiable evidence on your side, then you win. But again, the same goes for any debate where one side has a mountain of evidence and the other has only a single, unverifiable piece.
Now, if your opponent has other, verifiable evidence, and adds "the Bible says so" to the stack, then it is perfectly legitimate. You said so yourself; the book is old and everywhere. And there is something to be said for such longevity and diversity.
I also saw on a couple of the initial responses that I scanned, comments about the Bible having no place in a discussion of science. I refute that statement. Science was birthed out of religion - whether it likes it or not. Saying "the Bible is irrelevant to science" is like saying that your incognizant grand-pappy is irrelevant to life; that's not true - you just have to be willing to wade through the crap and gear to find the good stuff that is still inside.
Obviously we can't use the Bible as a means of describing the actual events of creation. We can however gain some insight as to how our ancestors saw the concepts of the creation of the universe, and the separate creation of our Earth. And this can be reconciled against our modern views and give us a better understanding of both the then and now.
I've also seen a number of "Discovery" type shows over the years where they show real science which makes possible some of the miraculous situations described in the Bible. That's not to claim any accuracy to those shows, but it is an example of science in the Bible.
So there is certainly a place for an overlap between science and religion. Certainly, just as there is only one true God, there is only one true creation. This is a case where both sides are both right and wrong depending on the point and point of view.

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