Apostasy from Christ' true teachings

It has been determined Quiz. There is no real room for doubt on that left.

Good, I don't think you should be paying any attention to things like the shroud anyway.As for Christ's life, you might note that, although I am an opinionated big mouth, I don't post much on the religious threads. I don't realy know enough to have a right to an opinion nor do I care all that much. So you won't get much arguement from me.

Usually at this point, Quiz, one points (with a reference even) to the exact place where the question was answered. That would be helpful and increase your credibility.

I'm not sure that one failure of prophecy invalidates the whole thing. If he had really clear, firm prphecies and some largish fraction of them came to pass then I would be prepared to overlook one or even 10.

That is the nature of all of us. It isn't a "short time" thing. We all fight against that when we finally recognize it but can never be sure we are winning the battle.That is why the process of science works so well. It isn't because all the scientists are so darned able to contain this tendancy (though they do know about it more than most and most of them (but by no means all) try to watch out for it). It is because the overall process has a tendancy to catch such things.It is very, very adversarial. You have noticed the kind of postings that go on here. One is put up, then 10 attack it. This is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING compared to acedemic publishing!! There the degree of scrutiny is astronomically higher and by people are very, very knowledgable about the field involved.It goes off track here and there but it is very hard for it to stay off track for too long.