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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3699 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
The Godspell Jesus: The only revered person in history who never wrote his own manuscript. Never happened ever before or after. This leaves the figure of JC to be whatever whoever wants to make of him. And we can say, Europe went for its life - attributing everything valid to JC, and if they could not - then it was not a valid thing.
One thing which renders JC very un-jewish, aside from the latin name, european depictions, gospellian non-hebrew manuscripts, Israel is bad and will die-ho-ho-ho! and other such lovelies - are two standout factors: 1. He never wrote it down! Its so unlike 55 other jewish revered souls. The dead sea scrolls was surpressed for 50 years not because it contained something negative about Jesus - in fact it was surpressed because it was set in the same period of Jesus - and that NOTHINGNESS was said of, by, for him. Shock of shocks - nothing. This while the scrolls contained 100s of copies of all of the OT books, and new ones never known, and which gave details of the minutae news of the day - like reading yesterday's NY Times. Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry sus! 2. Instead of confronting Rome - the gospels hails Jesus for confronting hapless, rowdy money-changers, doing what they did for 2000 years - observing a mandated OT law. WHAT - GASP - SERIOUS!!??? Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr un-jewish!
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3699 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Define, 'CREATIONIST'?
The term is first recorded in the opening preamble of genesis, and is vested in the singular, perfect [past/present/future] tense. It is a technical term, signifying EX NEHILO, because no tools or products contained in the universe existed then - thus the mandated advocation not to worship any images within the universe, which are post-creation factors. Technically, to 'create' ['something from nothing'], is totally varied from 'formed' or 'made' ['something from something else'], and does not occur outside of the first creation chapter of genesis. To be a creationist, one must clearly and totally acknowledge that Monotheism in its strictest possible sense is the first and primal factor.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3699 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Define the term 'bible'. If your talking OT, there are no errors, or more importantly, no contradictions in its narratives. if your talking about minutae discrepencies like spellings, alphabeticals and an extra zero here and there, this is attributed to non-bona-fine copies.
The 5 books of Moses cannot have any errors if a bona fide hebrew edition with a kosher certificate, because the alphabeticals are numerals, and act as mathemtical quotients in sub and final totals of verses, passages and books. The net is brim full of forged copies of the OT. The D.S Scrolls, written mostly in hebrew, contain not a single error in its narratives from today's bible, notwithstanding much of these works were recovered in bits and pieces, then completed on a matrix by expanding words and sentences from other existing copies - but yes, there are no stand out errors, to a degree like nothing else in comparison. Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3699 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
The last peoples' word which can be trusted about the NT and Jesus narratives would have to be Europe. The first peoples' credible pov would have to be that of the Jews, second the pre-islamic arabs: these are people from this vicinity and space-time.
There is no arms length from a european view, because it is motivated, and subsequent to its own earlier historical beliefs being clung to. The assumption that jews would distort or hide any truth is without ant credibility whatsoever: my reading of history of this space time says the Judean Jews were obsessed to recieve a savior, and even nominated five others which turned out incorrect. Jesus was not one of those five, and had no equivalent following as them. Basically, europe cannot be judge and jury here, and has a record of the most historical false charges subsequent to the NT: blood libels, deicide, the protocols, the OT laws are passe, jews are disbelievers, etc, etc. Most of those false charges have been over-turned by the previous Pope, but they prevailed for some 1800 centuries, and all europeans held them as gospel truth. Today, the truth itself is quagmired and a prisoner, vested against millions of innocent christians being hijacked by falsehoods implanted in their souls, and attached with belief in God per se. Ultimately, this is not a jewish but christian problem, and one for the Messiah to rectify. The premise of Creation is not related to the NT - this scripture says nothing about this issue.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3699 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: This is ridiculous. Why should the scrolls be measured by an egyptian writings dated 895 CE - a 1000 years later, when the Jews were in a state of dispersal and persecution? Your link is also historically corrupted - there was no 'Palestine' at this time, only Judea - this name came later, in 135 CE. Here too: "Palestinian Judaism: Josephus mentions three kinds or ”sects’ of Palestinian Jews in his day: Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes.". Josephus does NOT mention the term Palestine. Re quote: The above passage actually says the reverse of your conclusion. It is highlighting 'spelling errors', in Isaiah and Jeremaya [not the Mosaic], written in exilic states, and then goes on to say how remarkable these are that it is almost error free. The main factor should not concern spellings - but that the narratives are substantially the same, and with no significant variants. The term Palestinians, and the reference to the NT, only says the author is desperate to prove the NT - these are hardly significant errors! Here too, we see a clear agenda in the author's conclusion, in his connecting terms such as son of light, with the NT, rather than that it indicates the NT was made elsewhere and in another spacetime. I found no discrepensies in the OT of the scrolls and today:
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