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Author Topic:   Joralex and Yaro, open to comment.
John
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Message 5 of 64 (55663)
09-16-2003 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Joralex
09-15-2003 10:58 PM


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With all due respect, PaulK, that is the silliest thing that anyone can possibly suggest.
What PaulK said makes a certain amount of sense. God would be quite the idiot to speak to us and not speak our language.
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John
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Message 21 of 64 (55924)
09-17-2003 12:57 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Joralex
09-16-2003 12:16 PM


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It is up to us to seek out His meaning... not for Him to conform to ours. I fail to see what you cannot comprehend about this trivial point.
It really isn't about conforming, it is about communication. For communication to be successful all involved must understand the meaning of what is said. We can't know God's definitions. We can't get into God's head. God can get into ours, and God can know our definitions. The only option is to speak our language.
Of course, it really isn't about that is it? It is about providing yourself some wiggle room in the wording so that you can make the text mean whatever the hell you want.
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No, wait, I do see : people that do not believe in God in essence make themselves to be 'god' - the 'defining authority'. Hence, these people and their like-minded amigos name themselves the de facto standard that others (including God) must conform to. Yes, that's it... viewed this way what you say makes perfect sense.
You really took to that brainwashing.
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John
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Message 59 of 64 (57395)
09-24-2003 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Prozacman
09-17-2003 3:28 PM


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Two problems: I'ts self-fulfilling, and it's the ol' argument from authority.
And, oddly enough, that authority isn't God or the Bible, but whomever is interpretting it-- puts a lot of power in mortal sweaty palms, maybe hairy palms.
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John
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Message 61 of 64 (57794)
09-25-2003 2:38 PM
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09-25-2003 12:05 PM


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The assumption I used to make: the bible was quite literally the written down words directly from God, as if the people who wrote it were willingly posessed by God to write it.
That is exactly what I was taught as a kid. A big problem with this assumption is that even a minor internal discrepancy is a problem. The Bible was, after all, directly written by God so it should should show no error.
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John
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Message 63 of 64 (57984)
09-26-2003 10:11 AM
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09-25-2003 5:21 PM


I personally favor summoning demons and just asking, but that's me.
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