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Author Topic:   What's Best Reconciliation of Gen 1 and 2 You've Heard?
ramoss
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Message 186 of 307 (316503)
05-31-2006 6:30 AM
Reply to: Message 185 by arachnophilia
05-31-2006 4:02 AM


Don't you know that to really understand the Hebrew, you can't look at the hebrew,you have to ask an evangalistic Christian, because they are spritually discerning.

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ramoss
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Message 196 of 307 (316805)
06-01-2006 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 189 by arachnophilia
05-31-2006 3:18 PM


The fact you are working at knowing the hebrew at all is impressive,,... my atrophied from disuse 35 years ago.

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ramoss
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Message 290 of 307 (317842)
06-05-2006 8:05 AM
Reply to: Message 271 by Rob
06-04-2006 9:18 PM


Back on topic, if evolution is true, the Bible is false! I tried to get around it for a long time by personally viewing Genesis as more symbolism and metaphor than fact. But I was against the wall, and was totally unprepaired for the philosophical clarity of the intelligent design arguments.
The misreprentations of fact, logical fallacies, ignoring evidence that does not match a predetermined conclusion is not 'philosophical clarity'. In the 'intelligence design' area, this can be demonstrated
to you in precise detail.

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ramoss
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Message 301 of 307 (318147)
06-05-2006 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 292 by 2ice_baked_taters
06-05-2006 10:44 AM


It is obvious that the main goal of any religious text is to teach metaphorical lessons where facts are but window dressing for the meanings to be conveyed. Let us say that the bible for arguements sake was complete hisotrical fiction. It would in no way invalidate the many time tested values and lessons it teaches that still hold true today. To discuss any work of such value in a purely factual framework and use that to vlaidate or invalidate the lessons meant to be conveyed
is simply ignoring the entire point of why the text emerged in the first place.
That is what the bible literalists miss in the first place. Trying to
make many of the stories into the bible as literal/historical facts causes 2/3's of the meaning to be ignored.

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