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Message 6 of 56 (149178)
10-11-2004 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Cold Foreign Object
10-11-2004 7:47 PM


Re: Rutherford's 'apiru source is c.100 years out of date
I hope your intellectual approach includes the theories of Charles Darwin.
Of course. While the basic framework he put forward has held up very well there have been lots of modifications. The actual rate of evolutionary change and the uniformity of it that he suggested has been shown to be incorrect for example.
So while the theories have been highly reinforced his actual statments in detail have been heavily superceded.
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Message 10 of 56 (149188)
10-11-2004 7:56 PM
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10-11-2004 7:47 PM


Re: Rutherford's 'apiru source is c.100 years out of date
The revisionism going on which has "reversed" the research of previous scholars is based upon the worldview of the reviser and not the evidence.
Ok, Willowtree that is the LAST time you use that as an attempt at rebuttal of an argument unless you show, in detail, how the worldview has produced an erroneous interpretation.
In fact, since it is only the evidence and the logic behind the interpretation that counts you probably don't need to go into the worldview. You are, of course, welcome to show that the evidence used by the 'revisor' is false or incorrectly examined and interpreted. that is a valid argument and doesn't require recourse to guessing what cause the incorrect examination or interpretation.
If, in debate, the one is simply allowed to say "you are wrong because you view my ideas as incorrect" then there isn't any real debate is there?
You will defend your points and disagrrements with actual arguments.
You might, for example, show how one's worldview makes the distance from the GP to the seacoast different from about 112 miles. When you have handled something so simple then you can move on to other issues.

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Message 13 of 56 (149317)
10-12-2004 12:40 AM
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10-12-2004 12:32 AM


Re: Rutherford's 'apiru source is c.100 years out of date
But then why the word "worldview" in there?
Exactly what aspect of "world view" are you refering to?
What was, IIRC, pointed out that over time new information can come to light. For this reason using very old information can be a problem (though not always, of course).
I think you have used "worldview" in the past to refer to religious convictions. That, then, is not the meaning of the word now?
Religious convictions have nothing to do with a "view" that says that new information has to be considered.
I agree that rejecting the information only on antiquity is not a very supportable position. I don't recall what other information was presented.

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Message 15 of 56 (149349)
10-12-2004 1:08 AM
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10-12-2004 1:06 AM


Re: Rutherford's 'apiru source is c.100 years out of date
Their point was to cast perceived antiquity as incorrect with no other supporting argument or evidence.
Then I recalled incorrectly (IIRC if I recal correctly). That poster should be asked to show why the old information has been superceded.
(however I'm going to get a little cranky if they did that).

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Message 16 of 56 (149354)
10-12-2004 1:11 AM
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10-09-2004 4:47 PM


Re: Rutherford's 'apiru source is c.100 years out of date
Brian, as the thread has unfolded.
1920!! cannot believe it, how many texts have been discovered since then that have thrown more light on the 'Apiru issue?
will have to be backed up with some of those texts and how they make a difference to the topic at hand.
I agree with WT that simple age doesn't make something wrong unless it has been actually superceded.

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Message 20 of 56 (149437)
10-12-2004 11:31 AM
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10-12-2004 10:22 AM


Re: Rutherford's 'apiru source is c.100 years out of date
I'm sure, after your good example (which I haven't checked yet) WT will step up to the plate.

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Message 49 of 56 (150391)
10-16-2004 10:29 PM
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10-16-2004 10:23 PM


NOT HERE!
That is, the "Proof Of God" thread sidelined. The height of the GP etc. if you remember.
NO one is to bring that thread into this one. WT has been invited to start specific threads up on each of the claims made there.
So far those examinable start to get shaky when examined. WT has yet to be able to determine how far the GP is from the sea coast. This is after weeks of time to do so. That bodes ill for any attempt to continue the GP threads
Again DO NOT BRING THEM IN HERE.
Anyone who does so will end up with a short sojourne in Boot camp. This is to obviously off topic there that it would be deserved.
(btw -- do you really need such a large signiture? Nice it is but taked up scrolling space)
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Message 51 of 56 (150403)
10-16-2004 11:30 PM
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10-16-2004 10:57 PM


Sacrafice!!
MMM, young, NOT virginal female will do nicely. Please just leave out for pickup and do not damage intransit.
Let me look up that thread.
PROOF OF GOD
Weren't you involved???

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Message 53 of 56 (150426)
10-17-2004 12:41 AM
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10-17-2004 12:31 AM


Re: Sacrafice!!
Hair colour is far from the most important item. Fast delivery is!
That topic may have some relavance here but there are times when such things MUST be dealt with in a separate thread.
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