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Author Topic:   Biblical Statements About Infallibility/Inerrancy (A Theology / No Science Topic)
doctrbill
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Message 40 of 85 (157876)
11-10-2004 6:50 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by winston123180
11-09-2004 11:35 PM


winston123180 writes:
If the Bible is the Word of God, the absolutely authoritative work given to us by the Creator of the universe, who doesn't audibly speak today, then we can view the Bible as absolute authority. If something is absolute in its authority, then the only way this can be established is by the things that this authority claims about itself. If we were to rely on any other argument for the reliability of scripture, anything at other than what scripture says, we would be making that argument or the source of that information out to be in a place of authority over the Bible, because we are relying on what that says to verify the claims of the Bible. Therefore, in order for an authority to be absolute, we have to rely on what it says about itself.
Sounds right to me. Problem is, unless one can read the ORIGINAL draft of the script, as it was put down so many centuries, yeah millennia, ago; then one must rely on the veracity of other men, most of whom were Jews or Catholics (for better or worse) ruled by tyrants with a sword in one hand and a Bible in the other. Their word was truth because they said so. If you questioned it, you could lose your life.
Absolute authority is not mysterious. There have been countless tyrants, great and small, who, like the LORD have been willing to say, "Do it my way, or DIE." We don't need the Bible to remind us how dangerous and deceitful men become when they are given, or assume, "godly power."
The rest really comes by faith. Any view of the origins of life and the universe involves some kind if inductive reasoning, even those that claim to be truly scientific and provable cannot be 100% sure because nobody was there to see it (besides God and Adam of course).
Adam was the last creation. If he saw anything at all, he's not talking.
As for God ... Well, ... He's not talking either. (That is what you said isn't it?)
db

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doctrbill
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Message 71 of 85 (158931)
11-12-2004 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by macaroniandcheese
11-12-2004 12:49 PM


Hi brennakimi,
I also didn't count the Sabbath even though I was taught that on the seventh day God created a day of rest. I guess it doesn't seem a lot like work to me when the big guy says, "OK, Time Out."
I find it interesting that the clergy (Hebrew priests) worked more on the sabbath than on any other day of the week. The higher the sabbath (passover, new moon, etc) the more slaughtering ang building of fires; even though the commandments include a prohibition against building fires on sabbath.
In the same vein: Prophets were executioners. Kings raped, pillaged, & plundered. And priests created graven images.
Seems to me the commandments were for the little people.
"Thou shalt not kill until I say so." Saith the LORD.
db

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