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Author Topic:   Truth of resurrection and death of the apostles (for Willowtree)
JIM
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Message 23 of 92 (70085)
11-30-2003 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Asgara
11-30-2003 12:45 PM


Asgara writes:
Hopefully, that garbage is over now. Can we get back to my questions in the first two posts?
Are any Xians going to weigh in with their opinion of which "truth" is the true one? Does anyone have any historical and timely references for the deaths of the apostles?
Garbage? Did you call?
When Xians are debating the resurrection issue, inerrantists like to forget the principle of argumentation that says, "He who asserts must prove." They insist that their opponents have an obligation to prove that the resurrection did NOT happen or at least to offer a better hypothesis for the "data" than their claim that the resurrection literally happened.
For the sake of argument, let's just assume that the traditions are true and that the apostles all died horrible deaths as martyrs for what they believed. What would this prove? If martyrdom proves the truth of what a martyr dies for, then practically every religion on earth can lay claim to being the only "true" religion. Martyrdom is as old as religion itself, so the logical axiom that says, "What proves too much proves nothing at all," shows that there is no merit at all to the argument that the martyrdom of the apostles and earlier disciples proves the truth of what they believed.

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