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Author Topic:   Dialogue Between Satan and God in the Book of Job
fallacycop
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Message 19 of 146 (370510)
12-17-2006 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by ringo
12-17-2006 2:23 PM


And remember that Satan loses the "bet", so there is no possibility of him being smarter than God.
May be he knew, to begin with, that he was going to lose that bet, but all that he wanted was an oportunity to do some evil with God`s belobed Job. He got that. So he may have won after all.

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fallacycop
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Message 23 of 146 (370552)
12-17-2006 11:43 PM
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12-17-2006 11:29 PM


Maybe he flew around in a zeppelin dropping silver dollars on the poor - but that isn't in the story and neither is anything about "evil".
off course you are right. The story is about the fact that bad things can happen to good people and how Job behaved in face of adversity. That doesn`t mute Jon`s point, nevertheless, that, as writen, this bible story shows a god that let himself be manipulated by satan. Why is the story writen like this? My bet is that the people that created that story had a more antropomorfic view of god then most current self-proclaimed bible-bilievers do.
By the way, how may lobes do you suppose Job had?
Eh?
Sorry, could you explain that question
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fallacycop
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Message 26 of 146 (370567)
12-18-2006 12:16 AM
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12-18-2006 12:03 AM


he should perhaps realize that english is not your first language. (am I right on that?)
You are quite right. Portuguese is my first language. The missprlling, though, is due to my inability to type efficiently. (I only use my two index fingers)

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fallacycop
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Message 28 of 146 (370572)
12-18-2006 12:26 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by truthlover
12-18-2006 12:16 AM


Mother Theresa used to tell the suffering that they were receiving a gift from God that others don't have. You can scoff at that if you want, but the suffering didn't scoff at it. They were helped by it.
The fact that some people were helped in some way by the idea that their suffering is a gift from god doesn`t say anything about whether that is or isn`t true. It easies their pain, no doubt, but it may be just a happy thought, nevertheless.

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