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Fedmahn Kassad
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Message 21 of 262 (13747)
07-18-2002 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by wj
07-17-2002 8:25 PM


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Originally posted by wj:
Hmmmm. How much "information" did we start with for a nylon metabolising process? How much "information" did we end up with for such a process? Seems like a net increase in "information" on nylon metabolism.

Good point, but one which Fred will not attempt to answer. He seems to prefer to speak qualitatively on this issue instead of quantitatively. Gives him more weasel room I suppose. If he put a number on the amount of information contained in a given system, it would stand for about an hour before his assertion was refuted with an increase in information.
Despite this, no matter how Fred wants to define the change from a non-nylon metabolizing species to a nylon metabolizing species, there are now 2 populations where originally there was just one. Once again, Fred's Theory of Information did not prevent evolution from happening. Who knows, maybe God created the first replicating cell with a trillion base pairs. We have lost lots of information since then according to Fred's definition, but evolution got along just fine anyway.
FK

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Fedmahn Kassad
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Message 155 of 262 (54405)
09-07-2003 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by dillan
09-07-2003 5:05 PM


Just a Minor Quibble
Dillan writes: ...there are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated [closed] systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems ... there is somehow associated with the field of far-from equilibrium phenomena the notion that the second law of thermodynamics fails for such systems. It is important to make sure that this error does not perpetuate itself. [Dr. John Ross, Harvard scientist (evolutionist), Chemical and Engineering News, vol. 58, July 7, 1980, p. 40]
FK: Actually, the 2nd law has been violated.
"One of the most important principles of physics, that disorder, or entropy, always increases, has been shown to be untrue. This result has profound consequences for any chemical or physical process that occurs over short times and in small regions. Scientists at the Australian National University (ANU) have carried out an experiment involving lasers and microscopic beads that disobeys the so-called Second Law of Thermodynamics, something many scientists had considered impossible."
Link: BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Beads of doubt
FK

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