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Author Topic:   Are creationist crticisms of ToE based upon the assumption that creation happened?
NeilUnreal
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Message 15 of 37 (40833)
05-20-2003 8:51 PM


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"I didn't evolve from a monkey!"
I've said this before, but this is exactly where I think Darwin made his biggest mistake. He and Huxley would have had a much easier time of it if he'd claimed that we were descended from something really cool like a shark or a tiger. Subsequent generations of scientists could then have taken the heat when they figured out where we really came from...
-Neil

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NeilUnreal
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Message 19 of 37 (40956)
05-21-2003 9:53 PM


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TC: But you don't mind if I quote you for a comic strip do you?
Please, feel free! It's an example of the kind of thinking that tempts even an honest, scientific mind when you've spent 15 years working in new product design
-Neil
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NeilUnreal
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Message 34 of 37 (41654)
05-28-2003 9:53 PM


Peter, there are loose, colloquial similarites between evolution by natural selection and search, but one has to be careful about reading too much into them. There are also more formal connections.
A better way of thinking about your pruning analogy is to imagine a search involving multiple agents, at various locations in a search space, where only a fixed number of agents is allowed. The death of an agent before reproduction is a kind of node pruning (without lookahead). This may eventually result in higher concentrations of agents around "fruitful" nodes. (But again, this is only an analogy.)
I suggest reading some of the monographs of John H. Holland for more detailed explanations of genetic search. His writing is both accurate and accessible. Of course, most of the examples he gives involve teleological* search, but the principles are the same for undirected search.
-Neil
* (in edit) By teleological I mean with an end goal in mind, not with a directedness in the details of the process. That is, artificial selection where the same gross measure of fitness is used throughout the process.
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