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Chiroptera
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Message 5 of 199 (428544)
10-16-2007 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by DiscipleFire
10-16-2007 5:59 PM


Hello, DiscipleFire. Welcome to EvC.
Claiming evolutionary beliefs as scientific is one example.
I'm not sure what you mean by "evolutionary beliefs". But the theory of evolution is a scientific theory. It leads to testable predictions of phenomena that can be observed.
And these phenomena are observed, so it is an extremely well verified theory.
Pointing this out isn't bias -- these are statements of fact.
Now, seeing that the theory of evolution has, over the last 150 years, predicted many, many phenomena that have been observed, I can say that it is not unreasonable for me to actually believe that all known species have, as a matter of fact, evolved from a single ancestral species.
Now, my belief may be wrong, but it doesn't seem to be a result of bias -- it is the result of noticing that the theory of evolution not only provides a very logical explanatory frame work for biology, but also leads to further predictions that end up being observed.
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I see very little support from any mods for topics supporting creationism. I wonder why...
I would guess that it's because creationism is counter to reality, so creationists must either use incorrect "facts" or illogical arguments or both to support creationism, and the moderators simply point out that it's not debating in good faith to continue to use incorrect facts and illogical arguments even after the mistakes have been pointed out.
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Why don't you try to join in the discussions here and see what happens?

In many respects, the Bible was the world's first Wikipedia article. -- Doug Brown (quoted by Carlin Romano in The Chronicle Review)

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Chiroptera
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Message 14 of 199 (428554)
10-16-2007 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by DiscipleFire
10-16-2007 6:31 PM


You can all preach to me about the "scientificness" of evolution. I don't much care.
Huh? You were the one who brought up the question of whether or not evolution is scientific.
The theory of evolution is scientific because it makes definite predictions about what we should see in the world around us. We can then check to see whether or not we actually do see those things. That is what a scientific theory is; that is what makes a theory scientific. And, as a matter of fact, we actually do see these things that are predicted, meaning that the theory of evolution is a successful scientific theory.
Now unless you can explain why the theory of evolution is not scientific, you are the one who is doing the preaching.

In many respects, the Bible was the world's first Wikipedia article. -- Doug Brown (quoted by Carlin Romano in The Chronicle Review)

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Chiroptera
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Message 182 of 199 (430698)
10-26-2007 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by itrownot
10-26-2007 8:25 PM


The return of the black pot.
...but he's hung up on it....
He doesn't seem to be the only one hung up on it.

Computers have cut-and-paste functions. So does right-wing historical memory. -- Rick Perlstein

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Chiroptera
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Message 189 of 199 (430786)
10-27-2007 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by itrownot
10-26-2007 8:40 PM


Re: The return of the black pot.
I didn't edit my last post (i.e. Message 181) in time to make the point clear as to why any of us are SO hung up on this minor point.
Don't worry. It's very clear to me who's hung up on this "minor" point.

Computers have cut-and-paste functions. So does right-wing historical memory. -- Rick Perlstein

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