Where did the speck/singularity/thing come from?

hmmmm...the fence is getting kinda crowded

...so what's the point in taking up space ???I want answers dammit !!!... not conjectural, pseudo-intellectual, grandstanding, regurgitationist bullshit......those that tell don't know and those that know don't tell...any takers ???

so any crackpot theory including mine is as valid as anyone elses when you get to pre BB and the vagaries of an infinite universe...then what's it gonna take to get sum answers ???as in what proof is required, how can it be acquired and how can I help ???

so what's with all the pointless bickering then and intellectual grandstanding......seems everytime someone comes up with an original thought it just gets shot down point blank by the flat earth society or whatever the hell people want to call themselves or given the deafening silence treatmentan opinion is just that...express yourself not sumbody else what's there to be afriad of...losing face ???you should see me when I give a shit, i look exactly the same...

one persons perception of reality is only their stated opinion...accept nothing as fact
question everything
determine your own truth
define your own reality...the facts are as you stated nobody knowsso am i helping or do i need to shut up ???I'm probably not going to shut up but it seems i can't post threads in here anymore so how then can i help ???I hold my opinions as truth as do most people about their opinions yet by my process i am able to change both and thus redefine my personal reality......so dissect my model then, burst my bubbleI really do need it...

we might just have the beginnings of a discussion here instead of a worthless point scoring debate about nothing that can be proven so why bother arguing...so what do YOU think happened to the nothing ???

you must be God then, well I'm glad you popped in I've got a few questions...By your statement are you then saying that you are solely representative of the whole evolutionary process from nothing to nothing and that it's all about the individuals perception of what was, is and will be in which case objective reality is a misconception and we are all just random thoughts in a vaccuum interacting with each other under the guise of a collective illusory subjective reality which is totally sustained by your will

I'm pretty much of the same opinion......dunno bout strings though[This message has been edited by RingoKid, 04-15-2004]

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You dont know what happen post big bang either...its all speculation!

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do you mean pre ???...cos we and all we see are the evidence of post big bang

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and ringokid or whatever.. you said "all we see is post big bang". well, all we see is post two seconds ago but we dont think time started two seconds ago do we?

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2 seconds or 13 billlion years it's still post BB so I don't get your point ???