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Author Topic:   Where did the speck/singularity/thing come from?
1.61803
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Message 4 of 61 (99390)
04-12-2004 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by rineholdr
04-12-2004 11:05 AM


rineholder writes:
To say that everything came from absolute nothing is quite miraculous to say the least but from a creation stand point makes perfect sence (sic) since we can at least give homage to a omnipotant miricle (sic) worker ...God,.......
Attributing the BB to God IS religion. Science does not attempt to explain nor take a position on religion. Some people contend that the BB simply occured due to a quantum fluctuation and that in the absence of time and space the event had an eternity to occur. The BB theory is simply the most current explaination of what happened . Science can make no claims on what occurred before since there is no data to interpret. How one man interprets the pre BB is a personal matter and is shear speculation anyone who claims to know for sure is either crazy or dogmatic.

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Message 10 of 61 (99945)
04-14-2004 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by RingoKid
04-14-2004 12:31 PM


Re: somethings just aren't worth the time...
Ringo, what part of the Statement : (No one knows what happened pre Big Bang.) Do you not understand? Making an jackass of yourself wont get you the answers you seek because there is no answer to the question. There is no Data pre BB.

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 16 of 61 (100144)
04-15-2004 2:01 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Melchior
04-14-2004 6:42 PM


Re: thanks 1.61803
Hi Melchoir, what do you think? Strings? Plankes time/Planke size?
Quauntum foam? Math is a description of reality, but not reality. I am beginning to think that the Universe and everything in it is all one stuff eminating from the mind of *insert you prefered diety here. Is there such a thing as a objective reality when you get down to the "nitty gritty"? Your thoughts? My personal thoughts are that at the core of reality it is zero. Nothing. Which is exactly what preceded the Big Bang. Nothing there but a probablity wave function that is propagated into existance by itself, for itself. God, BEING itself manifesting exisitance by actualizing/ observing all possiblities. Or not. Just more invalid speculation for your reading enjoyment. *edit to correct spelling.
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Message 29 of 61 (100519)
04-16-2004 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by rineholdr
04-16-2004 2:43 PM


Re: somethings just aren't worth the time...
Rhineholder, you are right we dont know what was going on 10k years ago.
But the EVIDENCE of geology,archeology,and every field of science you care to name has assembled a enormous amount of data that has been scrutinized and picked apart by experts in these fields. And out of all this data and work you expect men to just throw they're hands up and say nah, it aint so cuz it dont jive with the holy book. LOL!@!!
What ever pilgrim. I personally went to NYC Musem of natural history and saw the bones of T. Rex perhaps you should go have a look for your self with your own eyes. #edit Ringo to Rhine my bad.
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Message 39 of 61 (100581)
04-17-2004 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by usncahill
04-17-2004 2:23 AM


usncahill writes:
why would you ever assume that your mind remember some non-real data?
Ever hear of psycosis? The Looney bins are full of people remembering "non-real data".

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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