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jar
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Message 8 of 20 (101656)
04-21-2004 6:46 PM


Probe is up and running
so only another couple years and we might have some questions

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jar
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Message 11 of 20 (101946)
04-22-2004 7:21 PM


I think part of the misunderstandings
come from two totally opposite mind sets.
There are those who would like absolutes. "Okay, we know that and now let's move on", vs "Well that explains what I see and so let's use that explaination until we find something it doesn't explain".
No matter what branch of Science you are dealing with, there simply are no absolutes. Any tool, any theory we use is simply the best, simplest explaination for what we see around us available today. If someone comes up with something simpler, or someone comes up with something that the current toolset cannot explain, then we either adopt the better toolset or develop a new toolset that will explain what is seen.

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jar
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Message 15 of 20 (102149)
04-23-2004 10:06 AM


How Science Corrects Our Understanding
but I have always seen it in the other direction. How understanding corrects our Science.
Is Science the driving force is it the result of understanding?
Do Scientists discover something NEW, or do they simply observe something and then try to understand HOW that came to be?
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jar
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Message 18 of 20 (102180)
04-23-2004 12:38 PM
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04-23-2004 12:10 PM


Re: How Science Corrects Our Understanding
quote:
You have a point. But I think it depends on whether we take science as the body of knowledge or the process.
I think as a process it corrects our understanding.
As for discovering something NEW, no. It is already there. But the process of uncovering it and working out the HOW changes our understanding.
And I think that is part of the problem. We get used to speaking in a shorthand, one that we seem to understand based on context and often use the same term for two different things.
There is Science that is the body of knowledge and there is the Scientific Method that is the process we use.
Unfortunately, many people confuse the two and we ourselves often use the terms only relying on the context for clarity.
I guess, what I an saying is that the Scientific Method corrects our Understanding and our Understanding corrects Science.
Did that make any sense at all?

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jar
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Message 20 of 20 (102188)
04-23-2004 1:33 PM
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04-23-2004 12:58 PM


Re: How Science Corrects Our Understanding
Well, I think the Title is just fine. It's not often that we get a chance to be obtuse and fuzz. We need to enjoy every such opportunity.

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