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Author Topic:   The bible and homosexuality
Dan Carroll
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Message 8 of 323 (103460)
04-28-2004 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by coffee_addict
04-28-2004 2:48 PM


you shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination.
If we want to be strict biblical literalists, (and I know we all do!) I've never once put a woman's wang in my mouth. Had too much trouble finding her wang to even try it.
So does that mean it's okay for me to go down on a guy? In strict literal terms, it wouldn't be "as with a woman."
Not that I want to, but it can't hurt to clarify what the rules are, here.

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
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Message 10 of 323 (103465)
04-28-2004 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by coffee_addict
04-28-2004 5:30 PM


Use it wisely, my friend.

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
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Message 13 of 323 (103486)
04-28-2004 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Loudmouth
04-28-2004 6:10 PM


quote:
Actually, a clitoris could be considered a vestigial penis, or vice versa. The start out as the same fleshy bud during fetal development before either ovaries or testes develop. Of course, I don't know if you have ever had a clitoris in your mouth either...
Define "in your mouth".
And somebody get some Grand Funk Railroad playing, because that seems to be where this thread is headed...

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
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Message 27 of 323 (103768)
04-29-2004 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by mike the wiz
04-29-2004 1:36 PM


Re: Look at this -- he who is for me is not against me
quote:
I enjoyed your first paragraph. But in your second one, you pokemon-evolved into Dan Carroll.
Eat it, Squirtle.
But seriously, he's got a point. Why don't you become a Rastafarian? What have you go to lose?
The obvious answer is "because you don't believe it."
quote:
Unfortunately, people are usually cynical about this and miss the true intention. They usually would rather accuse me of judging you to hell.
Equally unfortunately, in order to have concern for our immortal souls, you must first work under the assumption that our souls are in danger. In other words, the sentiment's nice and all, but a pre-requisite for it is to judge us to the pit.

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
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Message 29 of 323 (103782)
04-29-2004 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by PecosGeorge
04-29-2004 2:02 PM


Re: Inversion
quote:
But the contention that God has somehow changed his rules to suit our times, is ridiculous since health and multiplying are still extant facts.
Stop wearing clothes made of two different kinds of fabric.
quote:
Does God want New Testament people to be healthy? Well, yes! Therefore, the laws of health as found in Leviticus, including those of sexual behavior, apply throuhout time and apply to all those who wish to obey the God who gave them.
Two guys are both HIV negative. They suck each other's wangs.
Where's the health risk?
For that matter, if health is such a huge concern for God, does that mean he's encouraging women to be lesbians? Lesbian sex is pretty much across the board the healthiest sex there is. (And the hottest, if you ask me.)

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 39 of 323 (103881)
04-29-2004 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by PecosGeorge
04-29-2004 5:32 PM


Re: Inversion
quote:
Christ came to fulfill the law, not to change it.
So... you do keep kosher, and you don't wear two types of cloth together?
quote:
Anal sex is a poor choice of intercourse method, since the anal cavity is fragile and not intended for the purpose.
It's not made of glass, guy.
A little lube and some careful motion, and anal sex can be pulled off without harm.
Besides, what makes you think gay people are all having anal sex?
Please answer my earlier questions about men sucking wang, and lesbian sex.

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 47 of 323 (104167)
04-30-2004 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by PecosGeorge
04-30-2004 11:38 AM


Re: Inversion
quote:
Come, let us reason together, says the Lord.
Indeed he does.
So perhaps you could answer our questions, so that together we can reason through our concerns.

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
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Message 53 of 323 (104211)
04-30-2004 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by PecosGeorge
04-30-2004 2:01 PM


Re: Inversion
In my case, posts 29 and 39 will do.

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?"
-Holly

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 152 of 323 (113901)
06-09-2004 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 1:04 PM


Re: I think
Whatever the results of the latter, does not diminish God's determination.
Why would God be so cruel as to give someone a genetic predisposition to a trait he finds unacceptable?
It's like saying, "I find having brown hair unacceptable. By the way, I'm giving you brown hair. Enjoy your stay in Hell."

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 156 of 323 (113921)
06-09-2004 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 2:25 PM


Re: why
What can I say... it's good to know that genetic superiority is what determines who gets into heaven.
God sounds like a great guy.

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 160 of 323 (113983)
06-09-2004 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 5:24 PM


Re: why
genetic inferiorities have progressed since the time Adam could not contain himself.
there is no genetic superiority to be found on this planet
Well then, I'm confused. How can a person possibly be genetically inferior without another person being genetically superior to them?
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 06-09-2004 04:31 PM

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 163 of 323 (113989)
06-09-2004 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 6:07 PM


Re: why
Cool. I've been meaning to do that. But you haven't answered my question.

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 171 of 323 (114124)
06-10-2004 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 6:07 PM


Re: why
George, you still haven't answered my question from post 160, either. And I can't speak for Jar, but I would prefer an answer over an empty response.

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 175 of 323 (114148)
06-10-2004 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by PecosGeorge
06-10-2004 11:48 AM


Re: why
It's a true mystery
Well no, thus far it's just you making two contradictary statements.
If you can't reconcile those statements, shouldn't that say something to you about the point you're trying to make?

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 183 of 323 (114410)
06-11-2004 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by Hangdawg13
06-10-2004 11:40 PM


If I let that desire or urge turn into actually "wishing" I could have sex with them or "fantasizing" about it then it is lust and very wrong.
Why'zat?

"Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown
On a backwards river the infidels shiver in the stench of belief.
And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late; I'm over the rails and out of the race
The crippled songs of an age that won't thaw are ringing in my ears"
-Beck

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