Science only goes where the evidence leads, regardless of the religious implications.
Why then do we not hear from secular science circles as to whether or not the chariot wheels exist in Aqaba? Why is it that only Christian minded scientists are interested and researching it?
And christian fundamentalists are just going to assume that the Greek and Roman Gods do not exist along with the enlightenment of Budha, the Norse Gods, the Hindu pantheon, etc because of their personal ideologies.
No, it's because there are no fulfilled prophecies or historical and archeological evidences for their claims such as the Bible has.
If the supernatural were involved in natural phenomena, why are things easier to model and explain when they are excluded? Mind answering that question?
Because the supernatural cannot be modeled. Why does everything existing in the universe need be modeled? There is evidence for the supernatual -- lots of it which cannot be modeled. Imo, if it exists it should be acknowledged by science that things unexplained may have occured supernatually. They should go to Aqaba and check out whether or not claims are valid and if they are indeed valid base scientific hypothesis on what the evidence shows. Science cannot model anything created, so if science acknowledges the possibility of the supernatural why can't science acknowledge the possibility, I say the possibility, of intelligent design in the universe?
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And you can bold and italicize it and it still won't be true. Supernatural explanations for natural phenomena are excluded within the sciences, but this in no way excludes the existence of the supernatural outside the realm of natural phenomena. What is it about this statement that you have trouble understanding?
So what you're saying is science, doesn't exclude the existence of the supernatural so long as the student understands that any existing supernatural being
NEVER DOES ANYTHING SUPERNATURAL. All things must be explained with the assumption that it is impossible for any existing supernatural being to do anything supernatural. Supernatural beings
MUST operate totally in the natural so scientists can model what they''ve done. Isn't that what you're saying?
So going from dinosaurs to snakes is microevolution? Weren't dinosaurs one of the original, biblical kinds, and so if they were around they should have been put on the ark? If the descendents were significantly different than the predecessors (dinosaurs) who where still alive at the time, why weren't they put on the ark?
LM this is what I mean. There is no scientific model for a supernatural curse. The text says the serpents were changed. It doesn't say they were changed by evolution of any kind. Just as they were created in a day, they were changed so likely their offspring no longer looked like them. Nevertheless,
THEY WERE STILL THEIR OFFSPRING. Their offspring likely went into the ark. This explains why the whole dinosaur kingdom disappeared suddenly while other animals survived. It beats anything science comes up with, imo, as to their disappearance. It also explains why only the legged serpents/reptiles disappeared and the belly crawlers and short legged ones survived. There were small dinosaurs. Why did they die off and small crawlers live?
This message has been edited by buzsaw, 07-29-2004 12:40 AM
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