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Message 6 of 75 (127951)
07-26-2004 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Eta_Carinae
07-26-2004 9:15 PM


The Bad Apple Syndrome.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 23 of 75 (128222)
07-27-2004 11:22 PM
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07-27-2004 11:18 PM


Re: nothing would rot
Not that it matters much since no one has ever been able to provide any evidence that there was a fall, or eden, or serpent, or Adam, or Eve or...

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Message 45 of 75 (128268)
07-28-2004 1:37 AM
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07-28-2004 1:33 AM


2. If there is a real possibility of the existence of a supernatural dimension in the real universe, why is it banned from the science classroom? Isn't science suppose to be about things which may exist in the universe and about the existing evidence of those things???????
Because by definition, the supernatural can not be demonstrated, verified, or falsified.
In addition, it is simplly not needed. There is more than enough evidence to support the TOE without bringing in supernatural powers.

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Message 55 of 75 (128386)
07-28-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Buzsaw
07-28-2004 1:42 AM


Buz, you're pulling stuff way OT but I see Ned has already answered you.
I'm glad that you did bring this up though because it does give one more chance to stress to you the difference between science and pseudo-sciences like Creationism.
While the Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution or the alleged fall or snakes or eden, it is a classic example of how science works. Much of the Evidence for the Big Bang were serendipitous discovery. It was not something that the vast majority of scientists expected or believed.
As our telescopes got better, and we could see further out in space and further back in time, astromomers noticed that it seemed the vast majority of the things out there were moving away from us. And it didn't seem to matter what direction you looked, the general motion was away.
In the mean time, A.A. Penzias and R.W. Wilson were trying to get a new ultra-sensitive horn antenna working but found they were getting some unexplained noise. Further, the noise seemed to come from everywhere they looked. At first they suspected hardware or contamination, but after checking everything and cleaning it completely, they found the noise still there.
And that is the way that real science works.
observation---->hypothesis---->test---->theory---->conclusion.
The supporters of the pseudo-sciece of creation though want to turn things around to
conclusion---->accept only those observations that support conclusion.

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Message 56 of 75 (128387)
07-28-2004 1:05 PM
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07-28-2004 1:42 AM


Duplicate post somehow. Must have double-tapped.
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Message 73 of 75 (129040)
07-30-2004 7:15 PM
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07-30-2004 7:14 PM


Re: Distinctions
I wonder why the bible did't tell Buz that they were cursed into being birds.
Only the legless birds that crawl on their bellies.

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